presets...

Ramón Miranda mirandagraphic at gmail.com
Mon Oct 3 18:17:31 UTC 2011


2011/10/3 David REVOY <davidrevoy at gmail.com>

> hey,
>
> About your brush list : prefix 'Z' was a kind of way to recognise and sort
> mine ,  ( no tag feature were avaible at this moment ).
> All this test presets I done are *CC-0*, and I don't need to be credited
> for them. I'm sure some of them used blending mode and are surely broken (
> need to attribute the blending mode back, and overwrite ). Please don't tag
> them as 'Deevad' or use my name ( as Mypaint did ), I want poeple feel more
> confident with tweaking them, and have a default pack.
>

I agree, people don´t usually change a "named" set . And it is weird because
it is good to tweak and change things. PLEASE DO IT. reinvent. and make
Crazy things ! Art is fun and experimentation a way to learn.

>
> Here I propose 3 things for 2.4 default presets :
>
> _*1) remove oldies *_
> remove Gimp inherited weirdies brush from sources :
> http://img94.imageshack.us/**img94/6756/removebrush.jpg<http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6756/removebrush.jpg>
> - no need of circle brush tip, we have autobrush / no need of peperoni and
> 'The Gimp' label , or other test brush.
>

I TOTALLY agee, it is a waste of time delete each time those brushes. also
mypaint brushes as presets are unuseful by now in Krita. And lot of GPS
brushes can be refined. or deleted. i am working on that too. for the new
2.7 series.

>
> _*2) More brush, more textures , more gradient *_
>  Include all the ressources of GPS 1.5 ( If Ramon agree ), more stuff,
> textures, and cool things.
>
No problem. take what you need.

>
> _*3) Preset style*_
> For default 2.4 presets, make all the thumbnail use the same background (
> no fancy icon , I think )
> Here I used for mine a gradient ( CC-0 as well ) ;
> http://david.revoy.free.fr/**forums/krita/BG-Krita2.ggr<http://david.revoy.free.fr/forums/krita/BG-Krita2.ggr>
> Simple to place on background with the gradient buttons on the brush
> preview, http://img202.imageshack.us/**img202/962/presetlook.jpg<http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/962/presetlook.jpg>
> black stroke on this gradient takes not a lot of time to do with "the brush
> icon painting area" ( if the refreshing of this one is not broken as it is
> now )
>

I find a bit dark this gradient. maybe because my Krita is lighter. i know
you love grey themes. I agree we need consistency between icons .and i will
say between applications too. but this is a different subject.
I have done lot of Vectorial artwork for brushes that can be used . like i
did in mypaint with Concept design set.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VUqh4PHNXCg/TmQBC9wbpsI/AAAAAAAAA9Q/66tipeCnO5Q/s1600/RamonMiranda+ConceptDesign+brushicons.png
(i can change colors and background since i use Inkscape and my own SVG
files.)

>
>
> By the way , doing cleaning brush and presets is hard to do, mainly because
> paintoppresets files are linked to other librairies like brushes. This also
> makes some presets with GHNS broken , because sharing the paintoppresets kpp
> files don't include the brush ( png / gih / svg / etc...  the 'red cross'
> syndrom ).
>
We must provide presets as pack. with two folders , and no problem

>
> Also, preinstalled with sources presets made the work harder ( some brush
> or preset can't be clean, because they come from install ).
>

I agree with this too.

>
> -David
>
>
>
> On 03/10/2011 16:59, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It's time to add a good set of presets to Krita. But this has to be done
>> properly, with the right kind of license.
>>
>> I've got three collections of presets, and I need some kind of guidance on
>> what to include... All of them?
>>
>> * a zipfile called 2011-05-28_krita-preset_**deevad.zip. It contains
>>    creating: brushes/
>>    creating: paintoppresets/
>>  extracting: brushes/M_Pipe whiteflat.png
>>   inflating: brushes/A-eroded-knife-anim.**gih
>>   inflating: brushes/texture-a.png
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-ab_nervous-**ink.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-c_chalks.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-tz_Speed-**light_texture.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-t_texture-**rake.kpp
>>  extracting: paintoppresets/Z-zfx-decrease-**saturation.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-v_pattern_**starfield.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-t_digital texture chalks.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-zfx-textured-**explod.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-yeraser_hard.**kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-zfx-Glaze paint overlay.kpp
>>  extracting: paintoppresets/Z-yeraser_soft.**kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-ad_simple-**brush-detail.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-ac_Sketchy.**kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-ty_Speed_**Texture Floor.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-ts_splat.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-zfx-airbrush color HSY.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-v_pattern_**distant-trees.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-t-Speed_dirty square.kpp
>>  extracting: paintoppresets/Z-zfa_airbrush.**kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-ts_dynamic spray splat.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-brush-wet.kpp
>>  extracting: paintoppresets/Z-zzz_smudge.**kpp
>>  extracting: paintoppresets/digital chalks.kpp~
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Mixbrush oily hairy 1.kpp~
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Textured 1.kpp~
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Mixbrush oily hairy 1 (copy).kpp~
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/A - Water Brush 050.kpp~
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-a_Basic_**squary.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-ab_mixbrush hard.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-ab_**mixbrushes.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-ac_Alchemy style.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-a_Basic_**rounded.kpp
>>   inflating: paintoppresets/Z-tz_**Texturebig.kpp
>>
>> A file called krita_pack.zip (I think this is Ramon Miranda's work...(
>> It contains:
>>   inflating: krita_pack/readme.txt
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/**Sketchy.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/Z-**zfa_airbrush Glow.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/Z-**ts_splat2.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/2B Pencil.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/**paiinterTim.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/**Graphite Shade 02.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/**painter rake.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/**Deform move.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/**painter rake 2.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/**painter solid rake.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/BL texture.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/**Palette Knife.kpp
>>  extracting: krita_pack/paintoppresets/Z-**zfa_airbrush.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/SB Sketch 2.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/**Blockbrush.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/**143629-A - Aquarelle Smudge.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/**Basic Brush.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/**Texturizer 001.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/BL knife.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/**Basic Brush Det.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/ CH Basic  simple.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/ CH Basic moire.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/CH Crispy .kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/paintoppresets/CH Noise.kpp
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-abstract-**textured1.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A_Angular_**church.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A_Angular_**church_HR.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-Braids-b.**gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-Chain.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-cloudy.**gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-dirty-**brush.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-dirty-**spot.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-dynamic-**brush3.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-eroded-**cercle-anim.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-eroded-**cercle-anim2.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-eroded-**chinese-anim.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-eroded-**dirtybrush-anim.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-eroded-**knife-anim.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-flowers.**gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-forest.**gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-herbs.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-leaves.**gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-mineral-**cristal.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A_Nice sketch.gbr
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-**provencal.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-Rake.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-random-**vegetal.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-random-**vegetal2.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-random-**vegetal3.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-reptile-**skin.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-rocks.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-smoke.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-sparkle1.**gbr
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-sparkle2.**gbr
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-splat1.**gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-splat2.**gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-**starfield2.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/A-wall-**texture.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/C_Cloud 1.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/C_Dirty Spot.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/D_Dust 1.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/D_Dust Particles.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/L_Foliage 1.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/LJF Foliage Brush 01.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/LJF Foliage Brush 02.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/LJF Water Brush 02.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/LJF Water Brush 03.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/L_Leaf 2.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/L_Leaf 3.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/M_Pipe 1.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/M_Pipe 2.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/M_Pipe 3.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/mz_galhos.**gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/mz_**galhos01.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/N_Grass 1.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/N_Grass 2.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/O_Oils 1.gbr
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/O_Oil Soft.gbr
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/P_2B Pencil_Angled.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/P_Graphite Pencil.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/P_Graphite Pencil_grain.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/P_**RealPencil16x16.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/rake_**textured 01.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/Real oil_1.gbr
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/Real Oil 2.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/R_Rake2.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/R_Rake3.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/R_Rake4.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/R_Rake_**small.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/Sc_Scratch.**gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/Sc_**Scratches 3.gbr
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/S_Smudge_**Cheese.gbr
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/S_splats 02.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/T_Fibers 1.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/T_Fibers 2.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/T_Texture_**1.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/T_Texture_**2.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/T_Texture_**3.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/T_Texture_**4.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/T_Texture_**5.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/T_Texture_**6.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/T_Texture_**7.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/z_study pencil-2H.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/z_study pencil-2H_horiz.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/z_study pencil-H.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/z_study pencil-H_h.gih
>>   inflating: krita_pack/brushes/Z-Test-**pressure.gih
>>
>> And finally a directory called paintoppresets, with, I think, Animtim's
>> presets:
>>
>> 143629-A - Aquarelle Smudge.kpp
>> 2B Pencil.kpp
>> Basic Brush Det.kpp
>> Basic Brush.kpp
>> BL knife.kpp
>> Blockbrush.kpp
>> BL texture.kpp
>> CH Basic moire.kpp
>> CH Basic  simple.kpp
>> CH Crispy .kpp
>> CH Noise.kpp
>> Deform move.kpp
>> Graphite Shade 02.kpp
>> paiinterTim.kpp
>> painter rake 2.kpp
>> painter rake.kpp
>> painter solid rake.kpp
>> Palette Knife.kpp
>> SB Sketch 2.kpp
>> Sketchy.kpp
>> Texturizer 001.kpp
>> Z-a_Basic_rounded.kpp
>> Z-a_Basic_squary.kpp
>> Z-ab_mixbrushes.kpp
>> Z-ab_mixbrush hard.kpp
>> Z-ab_nervous-ink.kpp
>> Z-ac_Alchemy style.kpp
>> Z-ac_Sketchy.kpp
>> Z-ad_simple-brush-detail.kpp
>> Z-brush-wet.kpp
>> Z-c_chalks.kpp
>> Z-t_digital texture chalks.kpp
>> Z-ts_dynamic spray splat.kpp
>> Z-t-Speed_dirty square.kpp
>> Z-ts_splat2.kpp
>> Z-ts_splat.kpp
>> Z-t_texture-rake.kpp
>> Z-ty_Speed_Texture Floor.kpp
>> Z-tz_Speed-light_texture.kpp
>> Z-tz_Texturebig.kpp
>> Z-v_pattern_distant-trees.kpp
>> Z-v_pattern_starfield.kpp
>> Z-yeraser_hard.kpp
>> Z-yeraser_soft.kpp
>> Z-zfa_airbrush Glow.kpp
>> Z-zfa_airbrush.kpp
>> Z-zfx-airbrush color HSY.kpp
>> Z-zfx-decrease-saturation.kpp
>> Z-zfx-Glaze paint overlay.kpp
>> Z-zfx-textured-explod.kpp
>> Z-zzz_smudge.kp
>>
>>
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