[calligra] krita: save mirror, erase, composite op and mirror settings to presets

[Sven Langkamp]

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Silvio Heinrich <plassy at web.de> wrote:

> On 05/29/2011 12:22 AM, David REVOY wrote:
> > Hi Silvio,
> >
> > I disagree here with you. This actual behavior speedup a lot my workflow
> > here and usage with Krita.
> >
> http://david.revoy.free.fr/forums/krita/2011-05-28_krita-preset_deevad.zip
> > I did this brushkit (link above) with taking advantage of it ; check the
> > HSY color airbrush, and dodge explosion brush ; the result is I can
> > build my preset and be sure about the result I will got after select
> > them to paint.
> >
> > But I also understand your point of view even if I don't use it this
> > way. Anticipating multiple usage are the way of a good software ; and I
> > don't want to impose a way to do.
> > So, I would suggest to add a icon acting as a checkbox in the top tool
> > bar to 'lock' the opacity and blending mode. (
> > http://www.new-hampshire-locksmith.com/lock_icon2.gif ) . If user 'lock'
> > the preset won't load global opacity and keep the active blending mode.
> > A design like this can make happy all the way to use it , imo. Say me
> > what you think about it.
> > Best regards,
> >
> > -David
>
> Hmm... ok :)
> I think you did misunderstand me.
> I think you just want to be able to save a blending mode to a preset,
> so that you don't have to set it manually every time.
> That is fine and I want this too.
>
> But there are various issues with the way it is done currently.
>
> 1. A preset should be able to overwrite the global blending mode but
> only --> explicitly <--
> This means having an option in the preset editor where you can choose
> the blending mode
> you want to use for this preset.
> When this option is activated, the global blending mode will be overwritten
> by the blending mode from the preset (when the preset is loaded).
> If this option isn't activated, the global blending mode should not change.
>
> 2. I see no reason why the global opacity should be saved to the preset
> since
> we now have a slider in the opacity option in the preset editor.
> It does exactly the same. The global opacity option is simply for
> changing the
> opacity quickly while you are painting, so that you don't have to open
> the preset editor
> every time. If you want to save the opacity, just change the opacity in
> the preset editor
> save it and let the global opacity at 100%.
>
> 3. There is no user feedback what actually will be saved. Sven said that
> he saves the
> Mirroring options too... I mean these are also global options that
> normally affect all paintOps.
> This breaks the UI logic. For example. It would be the same if you go to
> the
> preferences, go to "Tablet Settings" and change something. Then you save
> a preset and the
> "Tablet Settings" will be saved to the preset and every time you load
> this preset the "Tablet Settings" will
> be changed. It should be obvious that this would be really confusing,
> since the tablet settings
> are considered to be global.
>
> 4. I don't know exactly what Sven changed but it seems to be a bit
> fragile :P.
> Some of the presets you gave to me are not usable/broken (they have this
> red cross after loading).
> And there is this strangle behavior that when loading a preset that uses
> the "Wash" painting mode
> and then loading a preset for the color smudge brush the painting mode
> is not set back to "Built Up".
> But the color smudge brush doesn't work in "Wash" mode (this is why i
> didn't include this option).
> Ok, I will be fair. This could also be caused by the broken presets.
> A while ago I noticed some similar behavior. I think a broken preset can
> somehow mess up
> the internal state of the whole preset system.
>
>
Definitely not fragile :) That is totally unrelated. The red x only shows
that the brush referenced in that preset isn't installed,
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