(Re)Marketing of "artistic" application (Was: Re: whither krita -- summary)

[Cyrille Berger]

Moving to koffice-devel, since it's of more broder interest, I think.

On Thursday 24 September 2009, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
> On Thursday 24 September 2009, Thomas Zander wrote:
> > On Thursday 24. September 2009 11.53.59 Cyrille Berger wrote:
> > > > integrated in koffice        <---------> attractive to artists
> > >
> > > I keep expressing doubts about that one. If you could find someone who
> > > has such a problem and make it discuss with us, and see if it's just
> > > troll, ignorence, "the weird idea that artists aren't just like any
> > > office worker" or if there is a real issue. I also think that the
> > > katelier concept has not been pushed to its full potential, because it
> > > requires someone to do it.
> >
> > I'm also a bit surprised this one showed up.
> > In the "Whither Krita?" thread you mentioned this too and Cyrille, Enki
> > and me gave some well verbalized counter opinions.
> > As you stopped commenting on the issue I assumed you were convinced, so
> >  thats why I'm a bit confused it shows up again.
> 
> Never assume that when someone stops commenting in a thread that they are
> convinced.
> 
> We have seen some very good arguments with which we might try to convince
> artists to put aside prejudices or maybe even practical problems, but we
>  need to get them to listen first. And even then, they might not be
>  convinced, which means the contradiction still exists.
> 
> And, yes, the arguments are good, but they are arguments that justify a
> "weird" situation -- if the situation weren't anonomalous, no arguments
>  would be needed. "Why is Krita part of KOffice instead of standalone" is a
>  question of a different kind than "Why is Krita not written in my
>  favourite toolkit", where the second question is trollish, the first one
>  isn't.

Yes it's a bit different. Maybe because, depspite splited packages in major 
distributions (Fedora, SuSE, xUbuntu, Debian, Gentoo, Mandriva, with the 
exception of Arch and BSDs), it's is often considered that you have to install 
the whole suite.

So the question is how to make it more clear, that the applications are 
independent from one other ? That using the suite will just give an even 
better user experience (a bit like use kapplications in a KDE environment 
gives a better user experience, while it is still possible to use 
kapplications on a different platform)

-- 
Cyrille Berger