[dolphin] [Bug 422006] [Dolphin] Emptying trash does not trigger view refresh

[Pete]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422006

--- Comment #38 from Pete <pete at ozmartians.com> ---
(In reply to Méven Car from comment #36)
> (In reply to Pete from comment #35)
> > (In reply to Méven Car from comment #34)
> > > (In reply to Pete from comment #33)
> > > > (In reply to Méven Car from comment #32)
> > > > > (In reply to Pete from comment #31)
> > > > > > (In reply to Méven Car from comment #30)
> > > > > > > Which desktop layout are using desktop or folder view ?
> > > > > > > You have folder view if you have icons of your wallpaper/desktop.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Simply put, do you have icons on your desktop ?
> > > > > > > Does opening `desktop:/` in dolphin change the behavior ?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > A component watching for trash updates, is not started if you use the
> > > > > > > "desktop" layout and might explain why I don't reproduce this.
> > > > > > > Haven't checked myself.
> > > > > > > https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/blob/master/kioworkers/
> > > > > > > desktop/desktopnotifier.cpp
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Another to check is to launch `kcmshell6 kcm_kded` and whether or not
> > > > > > > "Directory Watcher" is launched/running.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Why should folder or desktop view affect the behaviour of a file manager's
> > > > > > ability to monitor its own trash? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Because dolphin is mostly tested/used in plasma with default settings, this
> > > > > hasn't been noticed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > KDE code spans decades, that we inherit as-is by from previous maintainers,
> > > > > that had limited resources as do we always.
> > > > > Code evolves organically often without overarching design, this is
> > > > > especially true for old components such as trash:/.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > A file manager should be entirely independant of a user's desktop settings.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You are correct dolphin shouldn't depend on this, not primarly for design
> > > > > but for not-plasma users of dolphin. Fixing this might be a fix for this bug.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But please answer to my questions so I actually _know_ that's the issue.
> > > > > That would be more valuable to fix the bug than having to explain the past.
> > > > 
> > > > Understood. But I just tested Dolphin in both folder and desktop view and
> > > > the results are the same for both. Emtpy trash continues to show contents
> > > > until refreshed manually.
> > > 
> > > I should have added you need to logout for the desktop view change to have
> > > an effect.
> > > 
> > > You can use, to otherwise check:
> > > > Another to check is to launch `kcmshell6 kcm_kded` and whether or not
> > > > "Directory Watcher" is launched/running.
> > > 
> > > If my hypothesis is correct:
> > > If it is running the bug would not happen, if it is not running the bug
> > > would be present.
> > 
> > Am pretty sure its running, Screenshot of my background services:
> > 
> > https://imgur.com/a/hPCX0rA
> 
> You need to filter at the top right for launched ones.

Sorry about that. Filtered it and Directory Watcher is running. Seems others
aren't having this issue anymore just me which is weird.

Operating System: Arch Linux 
KDE Plasma Version: 6.1.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.6.0
Qt Version: 6.7.2
Kernel Version: 6.10.9-arch1-2 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: Wayland

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