[dolphin] [Bug 431666] Provide list view column and properties for change time (ctime)

[Jenny]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=431666

--- Comment #10 from Jenny <Jennyba1 at protonmail.com> ---
(In reply to Méven Car from comment #9)
> (In reply to Jenny from comment #8)
> > (In reply to Elvis Angelaccio from comment #7)
> > > If you know what the ctime is you problably also know how to read it from a
> > > terminal. IMHO exposing it in the dolphin UI would result in added
> > > complexity for 99% of regular users without actual benefits.
> > 
> > I understand your reasoning, but whether there are benefits for the user or
> > not is only secondary and individual.
> 
> Well in fact no, everything features and details must be based on real user
> use case and needs. 
> 

It is very unlikely that the KDE developers know which features are really
wanted by the users or not. How would you know exactly, you would have to have
a tracking function built into every element of every KDE application in KDE
Plasma and the users would not know about it and would be spied on which
feature they activate the most with the mouse or keyboard. So there is no
privacy in KDE. There is a good reason why there is such report page like this.

Joking aside, I just want to show that it is always individual. I have already
said that I like the philosophy of KDE and KDE Plasma is generally known for
being versatile configurable etc.

> > A stat command in the terminal for every file and folder is time consuming
> > and not practical.
> 
> What is your use case ? How would you use the change time in your workflow ?
> 

I have already said when change time (ctime) is updated and these are the use
cases.

> One command can fetch this for multiple files at once, for instance `/bin/ls
> -l -c`.
> 
Integrating it directly into Dolphin (GUI) has other reasons you can use other
functions at the same time.

> Adding the change status time to the properties dialog might make sense
> (this is not part of dolphin), and maybe to the information panel since it
> could be hidden by default easily.
> 
> In the views we would need a strong enough argument this is needed for at
> least more than an individual user.
> 
> Any feature big or small adds visual clutter and potentially confusion to
> users, work to developers, translators and documentation writers, bug
> triagers...
> 
The idea with the floating window and an integrated wiki was just a suggestion.
I think it is enough to just take another name instead of "Changed" just take
"Last permissions change".

> > Additionally Dolphin would be the first Linux file manager (GUI) that
> > supports all timestamps like the stat command.
> 
> There might be a reason others have not implemented it....

You know I'm talking about Dolphin and not other file managers on Linux, why
the others don't add it could also be a simple reason because they have
different philosophy than KDE with their many possibilities to configure. It
could also be because there are few Linux users in general worldwide or the
users don't know about this feature and maybe if add it by default there are
those who like it.

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