D10245: Add more default user locations to Places model/panel
Nathaniel Graham
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Mon Feb 5 21:07:54 GMT 2018
ngraham added a comment.
> Finally, a screenshot:
>
> F5690096: KUrlNavigator.png <https://phabricator.kde.org/F5690096>
The `KUrlNavigatorPlacesSelector` menu is about to get a welcome change in https://phabricator.kde.org/D10329 that addresses this concern.
> BTW, I'm genuinely interested in improving this topic for our users.
>
> It would be great if everyone could ask their friends and family if they are using Search For in the Open dialog, and how many results are displayed for them to sift through (as there is no secondary search filter in that case). Also I'd be interested if they expect Search For in the Save dialog. Also: Usage of Dolphin vs. usage of Open to open files.
I conducted the requested survey over the weekend while at a huge Super Bowl party. Plenty of "regular" users! Some of them use macOS instead of KDE Plasma (I'm working on 'em!), but thankfully the file managers and Open dialogs have identical features, so I think it's still valid data:
Survey data
===========
Person 1 - moderate computer skills, college professor (humanities)
- Occasionally uses Search For from the Open dialog; never uses it in the file manager. Hundreds of results.
- 50/50 split between using file manager and Open dialog to open files
- Heavy user of Places panel bookmarks in both file manager and Open dialog; has more than 20 and knows how to create, manipulate, and remove them
Person 2 - low computer skills, writer
- Never uses Search For from the Open dialog or file manager. Thousands of results
- Exclusively uses apps' Open dialog to open files
- Uses Desktop and Downloads Places panel bookmarks from Open dialog
Person 3 - moderate computer skills, artist
- Never uses Search For from the Open dialog or file manager. Thousands of results
- 75/25 split between using file manager and Open dialog to open files
- Uses Desktop, Documents, Pictures, and Downloads Places panel bookmarks in both file manager and Open dialog
Person 4 - low computer skills, public relations
- Never uses Search For from the Open dialog or file manager. Hundreds of results
- Exclusively uses apps' Open dialog to open files
- Uses Desktop, Downloads and Pictures Places panel bookmarks from Open dialog
Person 5 - moderate computer skills, construction worker
- Never uses Search For from the Open dialog or file manager. Thousands of results
- 75/25 split between using file manager and Open dialog to open files
- Uses Places panel bookmarks (Desktop, Documents, Pictures, etc.)
Person 6 - good computer skills, artist
- Occasionally uses Search For from the Open dialog and the file manager. Thousands of results.
- 50/50 split between using file manager and Open dialog to open files
- Heavy user of Places panel bookmarks; has more than 10 and knows how to create, manipulate, and remove them
Person 7 - very low computer skills, minister
- Never uses Search For from the Open dialog or file manager. 2-3 dozen results.
- Exclusively uses apps' Open dialog to open files
- Never uses Places panel bookmarks; saves everything in Documents folder, and Open dialogs all open right there
Survey conclusions
==================
- Everybody uses the Desktop for short or long-term file management; access to the Desktop from the Places Panel is extremely important
- For many, the Open dialog is the primary file access tool
- Almost everybody uses Places panel bookmarks from the Open dialog
- Many/most use Places panel bookmarks from the file manager--some very heavily
- Almost nobody uses Search For from the file manager
It's worth mentioning what macOS does here that differs from our current approach:
- The macOS Places panel equivalent ships by default with bookmarks to ~/Desktop, ~/Documents and ~/Downloads (but not Music, Pictures, or Movies)
- The macOS screenshot tool deposits images on the desktop, not in the ~/Pictures folder
- The macOS Search For section can search for music, pictures, and movies, but not documents
- The macOS Search For section is only present in Open dialog (at the very bottom of their Places panel equivalent), but not present in the Save panel or Finder file manager. The macOS Search For section also has //all// entries no matter what app you invoke it from; e.g. from a text editor, you're still able to Search For music and pictures.
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To: ngraham, #frameworks, #dolphin
Cc: alexeymin, markg, spoorun, rkflx, michaelh, ngraham
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