Review Request 112661: Use smart/friendly dates and times

[Jos Poortvliet]

On Thursday 12 September 2013 03:35:12 Frank Reininghaus wrote:
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> Thanks for the patch!
> 
> Please always include "before/after" screen shots when proposing changes in
> the GUI. I have just attached a screen shot to the wish report:
> http://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=82291
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> I am not an expert for these things, but I can't help thinking that it
> looks a bit weird because of the times which are not aligned with each
> other. Making the "Date" right-aligned won't help because then the
> weekdays would not be aligned with each other.
> 
> If anyone has a different opinion, please let us know, but I tend to think
> that we should better not change it. There hasn't been a really big demand
> for this feature either, just a single user reported this wish in 2009,
> and it got no support whatsoever.

I do actually think it makes sense. Yes, it looks a bit odd when sorted this 
way, but when you sort on date - it suddenly makes all the sense in the world 
;-)

Other apps, incl kmail, do very much the same thing. A compromise might be to 
ONLY use this notation when sorting by date (I use 'sort by date' as default 
on almost all folders, helps me find the most relevant stuff quickly).

/J

> Please note that our current list of 509 wish reports is not to be
> understood as a list of things that should be implemented. People report
> all sorts of random things as wishes, and in some cases, like this one, a
> considerable amount of work is needed (namely, implementing the wish and
> looking at the result) before it becomes obvious that the feature is not
> quite as nice as it looks at first sight.
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't have any good ideas how we could improve the quality
> of our wish list. Going through all reports, evaluating them and closing
> them as WONTFIX if applicable would require a vast amount of time, and
> after some rather unpleasant experiences that I had when I tried (IMHO, in
> a very reasonable and matter-of-fact way) to explain to some people why
> their wishes do not make sense, my motivation to invest any of the little
> time that I can spend on Dolphin on such an endeavor is very low.
> 
> IMHO, the best (but probably not very popular) solution would be to shut
> down bugs.kde.org for wishes completely. At the moment, it is IMHO not
> useful at all - even if a report has many votes, that has zero meaning
> because there is no way to "down-vote" wishes. This means that there could
> be lots of users who hate the idea, but we don't know about that at all.
> 
> The "Brainstorm" section of the KDE forum is IMHO much more suitable for
> the discussion of features - you can add screen shots, you can vote
> against features, and, maybe most importantly, there is a lot more
> activity there. If an idea is really stupid, many users will say it there,
> which is much better than if a developer rejects this idea (some people
> will always say "developers don't listen" or "you are just too lazy" -
> we've been there before).
> 
> Maybe I should start a discussion about this issue at some point, but I
> guess that my ideas will not be very popular because many people still
> seem to have this crazy idea that all developers have plenty of time and
> need to be bombarded with feature requests in order to not get bored, and
> that a developer "must" provide good reasons every time he/she decides to
> not implement a wish that has been reported (even if this must of course
> utterly fail, considering the low number of people who really work on the
> code and are active at bugs.kde.org, and the huge number of people who
> open wish reports for anything that comes to their mind).
> 
> - Frank Reininghaus
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> On Sept. 11, 2013, 4:50 a.m., Ashwin Rajeev wrote:
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> > (Updated Sept. 11, 2013, 4:50 a.m.)
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> > 
> > Review request for Dolphin.
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> > Description
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> > Bug 184086 - Use smart/friendly dates and times e.g. "Today 12:00pm",
> > "Yesterday 5.05pm"
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> > 
> > This addresses bug 184086.
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> >     http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=184086
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> > Diffs
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> >   dolphin/src/kitemviews/kfileitemlistwidget.cpp 688a4da
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> > Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/112661/diff/
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> > Testing
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> > Thanks,
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> > Ashwin Rajeev
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