[KDE Usability] Review Request 109015: Cleanup Places Panel context menus
Frank Reininghaus
frank78ac at googlemail.com
Tue Apr 30 17:24:49 BST 2013
> On April 30, 2013, 3:40 p.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > code looks decent; the menus look much nicer.
> >
> > this implies, of course, that one can *always* click in an empty area of the panel to get to the Add Item, etc. entries. hopefully this is the case?
> >
> > also, i never understood why a manual Icon Sizes menu was put in there. it is actually a complete regression back to the "configure all the pixels!" approach of 3.x. the previous approach of simply picking a reasonable pixel size based on the # of entries and the width of the panel was easy and intuitive.
> >
> > as for getting something like this into kdelibs .. it is indeed feature frozen, though inconsistency would be a bug imho. what would be truly fantastic in frameworks 5 is to implement the places panel in a way that it could be used by dolphin from kdelibs at that point. iow: why do we have two of them? :)
(a) About "the previous approach of simply picking a reasonable pixel size based on the # of entries and the width of the panel was easy and intuitive": but it was also a PITA more often than not for quite a few users, see the earlier comments in this request. The icon size changed suddenly not only when resizing the panel and/or window, but also, e.g., when devices were attached to/removed from the computer. Just the other day when I worked on a system that still had KDE 4.7, I noticed that the icons even resized when I enabled or disabled the terminal panel.
When Peter rewrote the Places Panel for Dolphin 2.1/KDE 4.9, he made the icon size fixed, which is consistent with the "one places icon size fits all" approach of all other file managers that I know. But then there were so many complaints from the more vocal fraction of our user base that I thought that adding that "Icon Size" menu might be a reasonable compromise. There might be other solutions, please refer to the earlier comments here, in particular the discussion between Thomas and myself.
(b) About "iow: why do we have two of them?": Peter decided to rewrite the Places panel for Dolphin 2.1/KDE 4.9 based on Dolphin's new view engine. It has a couple more features (like different groups for Places/Devices/etc., quick links to Nepomuk searches) and a few things less that some people considered nice, but which caused serious trouble for others (like the automatic resizing and the "free space" overlay that appeared when hovering a device).
In the long term, having two "Places" implementations in KDE is obviously not a good idea. A new widget (probably QML-based) that could be used everywhere in the frameworks era would certainly be welcome :-)
You might argue that forking/rewriting the Places widget for Dolphin was a bad idea in the first place, but then please discuss this with Peter. I had nothing to do with that decision, but I also don't feel in a position to simply undo all this and drop the new features.
- Frank
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On Feb. 18, 2013, 6:43 p.m., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Feb. 18, 2013, 6:43 p.m.)
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> Review request for Dolphin, KDE Usability and Frank Reininghaus.
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> Description
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> This patch cleans up the places panel context menus by:
> - Removing the device name in all the entries, it just distracts and every … single … entry has them. (It is debateable whether that title is needed or fitting, I am not a huge fan of these)
> - Moving "Open in a new tab" to the top like in most other places in KDE (Unmount and Empty Trash are always above because they're more important)
> - Moving Icon Size to the global context menu rather than the item context menu where it made no sense from a context perspective
> - Removed "Unlock panels" from item context menu (also no "contextual" thing)
> - Removed "Add Entry" from item context menu
> - Removed "Show all entries" from item context menu
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> See screenshot for direct comparison between all changed context menus.
> Of course this makes Dolphin's places panel drift even further away from generic kdelibs places panel but they so different already …
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> This addresses bug 310764.
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310764
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> Diffs
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> dolphin/src/panels/places/placesitemmodel.cpp 1acbb57
> dolphin/src/panels/places/placespanel.cpp e23732c
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> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/109015/diff/
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> Testing
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> Editing still works, hiding/showing items, showing all, changing icon size, emptying trash, mounting/unmounting.
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> File Attachments
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> Comparison (left old, right new)
> http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2013/02/18/cleanupplaces.png
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> Thanks,
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> Kai Uwe Broulik
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