Changing Cookies/Popup Default Settings

[Rigo Wenning]

Am Tuesday 23 August 2005 12:18 verlautbarte Stephan Binner :
> I suggest to change everything as session cookies which is not for
> most people not very different than being tracked by revisiting the
> same IP.

In the P3P-Group, we had exactly this discussion with Microsoft in 2002. 
It means a sudden change of the browsing experience, because cookies 
with login/password will disappear and users don't remember their 
passwords. All kinds of preferences on websites will disappear. The 
favorite stocks will not appear etc.. Also, 80% of the users _never_ 
touch the preferences. This means using Konq will make a lot of work 
for the hotlines and sys-admins. They will all _love_ you ;)

The only way you could do this would be to put the old cookies on hold 
and warn the user about the new behavior and suggest a review of the 
existing cookies. (IE 6 has been through that for the P3P 
implementation and the third party cookie blocking)
>
> > That's why we made P3P. Instead of changing defaults, I suggest to
> > change
>
> P3P is mostly a different beast, can we please stick to the cookies
> topic?

I'm surprised that You haven't understood that P3P is all about cookies, 
being able to distinguish good/useful cookies from bad/evil cookies. It 
is made to address exactly your issue. P3P would allow to accept the 
login/password cookies and get rid of the tracking cookies and deal 
some cookies as session-cookies. (There are no constraints on 
reactions)
>
> > Instead of changing defaults, I suggest to change technology.
>
> Sorry, we are not going to change the web before the KDE 3.5 release.

:) Sorry about my interference, but George allready knows that I appear 
here from time to time to remind you of a solution that exists since 
2002 and to consider putting effort into it instead of making some new 
bake-your-own cookie mangler. I just say, if there is effort, it would 
be nice to invest it in a P3P implementation. I'm not a programmer, but 
expect any help I can give. 

Best, 

Rigo
(Privacy Activity Lead)

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