Closing of last tab

[Thomas Zander]

Leo Savernik wrote:
> The issue with Konqueror is that it is, in fact, a special app.
...
> However, Konqueror as such is no editor app, and therefore any editor 
> guidelines do not apply. Concerning the user interface guidelines, Konqueror 
> should open an empty document when the last tab is closed, which Konq doesn't 
> do because it makes no sense. So Konq is already breaking consistency here.
>
> As Konqueror is a viewer app, I don't see any harm in closing the window when 
> the document is closed.

I see you failed to read the document and the mailing list I pointed you to.
These issues were discussed and answers were given.
In short; they are called KDE guidelines instead of editor guidelines for a
reason.

> I'm aware of the fact that one *can* lose data (e. 
> g., form data) but this can happen as well when the user has more than one 
> tab open, and accidentally presses Ctrl+W.

Instead of abusing a known usability issue you might want to fix it.
If I am posting in a forum and I press ^W since I want to delete my last word,
like I could in the previous version of konqueror (and I am used to do in vi
and konsole), I loose all my typing without a question.
If you feel that is acceptable I must comment that you are not someone that
can make statements about usability.

> > Thats not true; when you use Ctrl+Q for close it is and always has been
>
> Well, that's where the usability issue arises. Ctrl+W means "I want to get rid 
> of that document now" (scilicet: in the sense of closing, not deleting), but 
> for the last document in a window, it means "Oops, suddenly it doesn't work 
> anymore, ah, yes, it's the last document, so I have to resort to Ctrl+Q this 
> time".

As it is in each and every KDE application.

> > please add this feature on your local version of kde and use that.
> Local changes are a nightmare to maintain and update.

Global version that are hidden for the user and for new developers are also a
nightmare to maintain; and thats ok for some reason?

> I hope I have clarified my point of view enough why I think that Ctrl+W 
> closing the window will not break consistency more than it does already, and 
> why it improves usability.

You clarified your point of view enough, yes.
Your feeling of 'inproved usability' is setteled on just feelings and not on
any rationale that holds for anyone but a very select set of people.

-- 
Thomas Zander