Konqueror delete unification

[Koos Vriezen]

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, David Hugh-Jones wrote:

> This is a jolly interesting discussion, but we have already had quite an
> extensive discussion of konqueror delete, as a result of which I wrote
> the patch as it currently is! My ideal would be probably to just always
> use trash and then have an intelligent trash, but a lot of people did
> want to have the different options. So I kept them in. The difference I
> am talking about is not a difference in functionality, just a difference
> in the way we explain it to the user.

I'm sorry I missed that discussion. My point isn't really about delete vs
trash but more about where to put the trash. As said, copying files from
other (remote) partitions to my home dir, means for me I'm not going to
use it.
It's a 'how should trash work' discussion. I would use it if trash popups
with a question 'Hey /data1 or smb://companyserver/projects doesn't have a
trash installed. Install one?' and use that for trash. Or something else,
as long as it don't start copying files.

Koos

>
> As for "making it too complicated" - I think removing 3 delete options
> from the RMB and replacing them with one configurable option is a big
> gain in simplicity! But try out the patch and see if you think it is
> well explained in the kcontrol dialog.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 22:39, Koos Vriezen wrote:
> > On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Tim Jansen wrote:
> >
> > > There are two reasons why people want to delete (instead of move to trash):
> > > 1. because they want to conserve disk space
> > > 2. because they want that nobody is able to view that file
> > >
> > > (1) is also somewhat triggered by human instincts. Even when there are
> > > gigaytes of free disk space people still want to have as much as possible. A
> > > similar effect can be seen in older MacOS versions: originally the trash icon
> > > was always the same. Later somebody had the idea that the trash icon should
> > > show it when there was something in the trash. The result was that people
> > > started emptying the trash after deleting, because it is a good idea to empty
> > > your trash bin early & often. In general usability guys seem to regard that
> > > change in MacOS as a bad thing BTW...
> > > However, (1) could also be solved by a intelligent mechanism to clean up the
> > > trash when the disk space is low (but automatically, not with annoying
> > > dialogs like in windows - if something is in trash there should not be any
> > > guarantes thatthe file may stay there).
> >
> > Just adding my 1.5 cents as a kfm user.
> > I wouldn't mind kfm trashing a file if I delete it if it's on the same
> > partition as my home dir. but if I delete eg an iso image on another
> > partition, I would be quite annoyed and probably not going to use it. Not
> > to mention remote disks.
> > Iirc, ms has a trash on each partion (can't be done with linux) and
> > default not to trash for remote files. Also toggling this with shift del
> > is a nice feature.
> >
> > Koos
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