gideon state, upcoming kdevelop's kwrite patches

[Roland Krause]

Kuba,
please send us the patch to the list. It is highly appreciated. 
As Falk said, if it's really broken in the current version it can be
fixed in CVS. 

I am heavily using and relying on KDevelop myself. I have considered
switching to gideon and some people claim it is reasonably stable which
I am inclined to believe. Experience shows though that it takes about
20 people to use and report problems for about 2-3 weeks to get an app
stable. Gideon sure has not had that exposure yet. 

The only way to improve it is to start using it :-) 

Roland


--- Kuba Ober <kuba at mareimbrium.org> wrote:
> Is gideon usable at +- kdevelop 2.1's level?
> If not, would it be a big job to make it so?
> I'm considering switching to gideon from kdevelop, and I'm worried
> whether it 
> would take a lot of work to make gideon useable.
> 
> BTW I'm finishing up my kdevelop patches. The newLine() and tab()
> [autoindent 
> and tab indent functionality] are finished, I'm looking into whether
> del 
> needs tweaking or not.
> 
> I've accomplished the following (bad things first)
> 1. Break one translation (autoindent -> Enter indents, for
> consistency)
> 2. Add 3 new translatable strings (Indent options, Indent braces)
> 3. Editor options dialog has Indent options separated into their own
> groupbox 
> to make things more readable.
> 4. (cursor position is marked with ".") in-between-braces indentation
> works, 
> ie
> {.}
> followed by newline, gives this
> {
>    .
> }
> 5. indentation of parenthesised multiline parameter lists works
> correctly:
> if (a ||
>     b) {.
> followed by newline, gives this
> if (a ||
>     b) {
>   .
> }
> instead of
> if (a ||
>     b) {
>       .
>     }
> 6. tab always works; it can do two things:
> - align the line with lines that are above it, like
>   dummy();
> abc.
> followed by tab, gives this
>   dummy();
>   abc.
> - increase indentation level, like
>   dummy();
>   abc.
> followed by tab, gives this
>   dummy();
>     abc.
> Beforehand, it was impossible to use tab to increase indentation, and
> that 
> sucked -- here's the stock 2.1 behaviour:
> abc
> def.
> followed by tab does not change anything
> 7. either spaces or tab character can be used for indentation, and
> this stuff 
> is completely transparent. You can choose different values for
> indentation 
> and tab width; spaces will be used to compensate where needed.
> Actually, this 
> allows linux kernel style indentation (tabs indent, spaces align
> things like
> parameter lists), which is tolerant of changing tab-widths without
> breaking 
> the visual layout.
> 
> This code should be portable to kate as it's pretty generic I hope.
> I'll turn 
> it into kate patches sometime later.
> 
> I should have patches tomorrow. They are heavily tested (I use my
> modified 
> kdevelop).
> 
> I'd love to see kdevelop 2.1.2 with those things in, it would be a
> nice way of 
> finishing up the development of that branch by finally making the
> indentation 
> work for most people.
> 
> I'm also going to explain indentation features in the documentation,
> along 
> with updating the section about Editor options.
> 
> Please note that I may not be able to contribute much more to Gideon
> (alas, I 
> can work on indentation for kate all right), since I consider myself
> an 
> end-user, rather than gideon developer.
> 
> Cheers, Kuba
> 
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