how to turn off -fno-exceptions in kdevelop

[Scott Manson]

On Monday 12 March 2001 06:44 pm, you wrote:
> Hi Ralph,

> Agree, but probably due to a lack of information I still don't see a
> reason for diabling exceptions or 64 bit int arithmetic ny default. I

I have to jump into this thread ANY default options that are set are probably 
set for a majority of platforms/users not for the obscure user/platform. I 
know that the world is not a democracy and this is a comprise trying to keep 
as many people/platforms happy as possible, while not "displeasing " too many 
other people.  I am sorry you fall in to the latter catagory but if we 
changed the defaults to your specifications we could possibly displease a lot 
more people than just you.


> assume that you guys don't fiddle with compiler switches without having
> good reasons to do so. So where's the actual problem with enabled
> exceptions or 'long long' stuff? Reentrancy? I personally use the GNU
> compiler among other stuff as a cross development system for 68K embedded
> targets and I switched off exceptions as they make (along with rtti) the
> code a lot larger. That's an issue for systems with a very limited amount
> of ROM space but I don't think it's an issue for a standard "bloated"
> workstation with tons of RAM and harddisk space...
Sorry I never have enough RAM and anything that makes "bloated" software
the default is IMHO wrong. A developer should be forced to develop NOT
on a super-charged platform with lots and lots of ram but on a lower end 
platform (more in line with the majority of the platforms out there.)
I could write the greatest IDE environment out there and it runs FAST on my
box with 2 Gig Ram and dual procs but is next to impossible to run on anything
less. If you need specialized options for your platform then accept the fact 
that you are going to have to do a little more work.  Compiler switches are a 
minor inconvience; try getting any other platform's switches "tweaked" and 
you might find that this inconvience is not only minor but trivial.

> > let's say with Icons. I myself have to look up these rules there
> > sometimes. What is needed is to find out the rules automatically and
> > dynamically because we used the admin dir of the checks it makes and
> > that it should make things easier to update with each KDE / Qt version.
> > The pro's are more than the con's here definetly, although it may seem
> > like it's causing you some trouble right now.
>
> Is there any pointer to some discussions or documentation concerning the
> pros and cons? I'd be really interested in getting more information about
> current development plans and the issues you are aiming at.
>
> > needed by Stephan for KDE stuff. If you're not happy, take Stephan's
> > solution to avoid using them and write a patch to the project managment
> > for 2.0 and take part on that stuff in the active development. As much
>
> From my personal point of view I'd really like äto help a bit in active
> development. I've been using Linux and open source stuff for about 8 years
> now and I'm definitely convinced of its quality and power, so it would
> be time to do something for the community too (except testing and debugging
> as much as possible). The problem is time. I'm working full time as a hired
> SW developer, I'm driving my own little software company in my spare time.
> I'm married and have 2 little kids and I'm a student of computer science at
> "Fernuniversitaet Hagen". Honestly, that's almost more than I can handle...
> However, as this posting may become some sort of OT please feel free to
> contact me at juergen at suessmaier.de. Maybe we can find some small
> subprojects that I can help to work on.
>
> > as I appreciate comments and hints, I would like to see the developers
> > using kdevelop taking more part actively in the development, even if it
> > would be in small areas of the code. The codebase is so big that
>
> Yep, I really do understand this kind of problems!
>
> > everyone can look for a part to work on and everyone is invited to do
> > so. Take Roland as a good example. He ranted a bit first and is now
> > trying to do what he can do in his spare time, like we all do. I
> > wouldn't be that front up normally but there is, in opposition to many
> > other free projects, *nobody* paid for KDevelop development - although
> > some of us could really need it because we invest more than 10 hours a
> > day into our project.
>
> Yes, I can imagine that. A project like KDevelop isn't anything simple and
> I personally really admire the effort as well as the results of your
> team's work.
>
> > I have it working here. You need to run make messages and merge first to
> > rebuild the pot file and add a po file of course. The differences will
> > be merged into the po file then.
>
> Thanks a lot for the hint. I'll check this out tomorrow - too late for
> experiments right now :-(
>
> Regards,
> Juergen

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