GSoC 2017 Proposal: Julia Integration in Kdevelop

[Boudhayan Gupta]

Hi Geetam,

I took a long hard look at your Julia code and some other stuff in the
repository. All of it looks good to me.

If you're planning on working only 5 days a week, 40 hours a week is a
perfectly realistic time commitment.

I haven't looked at WithGoogle yet (in bed with a fever, too lazy to
browse, sorry) - have you submitted a final proposal?


Freundliche Grüße
Boudhayan Gupta
KDE e.V. - Sysadmin and Community Working Groups
+49 151 71032970


On 3 April 2017 at 14:53, geetam <geetam.chawla at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks a lot for the feedback Boudhayan, I have now updated my proposal with
> a link to my github repo of some simple Julia scripts, and your point about
> burning out seems to make sense, therefore I have made some changes to my
> proposal.
>
> Again thanks for reviewing,
>
> Best,
>
> Geetam Chawla.
>
>
>
> On Monday 03 April 2017 02:06 AM, Boudhayan Gupta wrote:
>>
>> Hi Geetam,
>>
>>
>> On 2 April 2017 at 22:07, Geetam Chawla <geetam.chawla at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Geetam,
>>>> I'm a little surprised you've picked a project where you add support
>>>> for a language to an IDE when you say you have only elementary
>>>> knowledge of Julia.
>>>
>>> I don't think that my lack of in-depth knowledge of julia will affect
>>> the quality of plugin that I will develop as it will be done with the
>>> help of a language server. Most of the code will be written in c++.
>>
>> I like this part of the proposal very much - the use of the VSCode
>> language server extension. Note that GSoC rules don't allow
>> collaboration in a project between two students, so it's quite
>> possible that we'll end up with two implementations of the same thing
>> unless we can find a creative way of bypassing that rule while still
>> keeping with the spirit of the law.
>>
>> I'm going to presume you're capable enough of learning the bits and
>> pieces of Julia that need to be learnt as and when required. With this
>> presumption:
>>
>>>> Have you ever used Julia before?
>>>
>>> I used it in my university course for numerical methods.
>>
>> Good, so you know how to use the language. Could we see some code?
>>
>>>> Was Julia good enough for your use-case?
>>>
>>> Yes, It worked pretty well.
>>>
>>>> Why are you motivated enough to add support for that particular language
>>>> into KDevelop?
>>>
>>> What impressed me about julia is how easy is it to get something done in
>>> julia and yet it is as fast as languages like go and rust, also going by
>>> the
>>> trends it is likely to get more popular as time goes by.
>>
>> I don't buy this. A simple internet search reveals R is more in demand
>> in the job market and growing faster. However, if you're convinced
>> Julia is the tool you'll need to get most of your work done, that's a
>> good enough reason to do this.
>>
>>>> In between that and the fact that you'll be unavailable for 4 weeks or
>>>> so for your university finals I'm a little sceptical about this
>>>> proposal.
>>>
>>> I am sorry perhaps I should have formatted it better, but May 16 to June
>>> 7
>>> is about 3 weeks, and my university finals take place over a period of 2
>>> weeks, now since I do not know the exact schedule of my university
>>> finals,
>>> I thought it would be a good idea to list 3 weeks a possible period of
>>> inactivity. I do not believe in overpromising and under delivering.
>>
>> Yes, private Indian universities suck in this regard. Whether or not
>> this unavailability will be a major problem, will need to be decided
>> collectively by other mentors.
>>
>>> I was actually planning to work 10 hrs a day for the whole summer to make
>>> sure that
>>
>> Whoa there, that's 50 hours a week (70 if you plan on working
>> weekends). Not only is that severely unrealistic, you'll burn out
>> pretty fast if you try that.
>>
>> The FAQ states that you'll expect to work 30+ hours a week. A standard
>> working contract here in Germany is about 38-42 hours a week, and
>> that's usually the sweet spot for most people between productivity and
>> sanity preservation. I'd like you to re-evaluate that last statement
>> and make a more realistic commitment :-)
>>
>> I think you're looking good with that proposal, but I do see you're
>> overenthusiastic and prone to making unrealistic commitments (which is
>> both a really good thing and a really bad thing). I'd say take it
>> easy, sleep on it tonight, and revise this if needed with a fresh mind
>> tomorrow. If you think you can stick to exactly what you've written
>> after thinking about it, we'll evaluate that too - just take some time
>> to think.
>>
>> Also, just so that you don't accidentally miss the deadline (it's
>> Tuesday 12:30 AM IST, I think), please submit a final copy of the
>> proposal on WithGoogle. I believe you can update it later, and if not
>> in exceptional cases you can mail in an updated proposal to us.
>>
>> Again, you're looking good. You can do this!
>>
>> Freundliche Grüße
>> Boudhayan Gupta
>> KDE e.V. - Sysadmin and Community Working Groups
>> +49 151 71032970
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