Broken categories in our templates or kapptemplate?

[Andreas Pakulat]

Hi,

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Andreas Pakulat <apaku at gmx.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Aleix Pol <aleixpol at kde.org> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Andreas Pakulat <apaku at gmx.de> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I was just trying to create a new Qt/C++ CMake project but was kinda
>>>> confused by the categories presented to me. The left-most list was:
>>>>
>>>> Python, Ruby, C++, KDE, Standard
>>>>
>>>> Naturally I chose C++ but that only has KDE (i.e. real KDE stuff, like
>>>> plasma, KApplication etc.) and and qmake templates.
>>>>
>>>> I then checked Standard and KDE since the other two categories are
>>>> clearly not what I want. Standard has only a C++/Terminal with CMake.
>>>> Interestingly the KDE entry does not have a single KDE-related
>>>> template, all of the three are CMake/C++ Qt templates - one for tests,
>>>> one for gui and one for non-gui apps.
>>>>
>>>> Now before I whip up a bugreport:
>>>>
>>>> Is this categorization intentional as outlined above?
>>>>
>>>> Should the categories in KDevelop or kapptemplate be changed? (I'd
>>>> personally fix the kdevelop templates to use the language as first
>>>> option too)
>>>>
>>> What KDE SDK version do you have? this changed some time ago...
>>
>> Interesting, still 4.7.4, thought I updated to 4.8 on that machine already...
>>
>>> The reasoning behind was that it's more clear to have what you're
>>> trying to achieve in the topmost level so that you can get all the
>>> options on how to do it in the end.
>>
>> Ok, so intended is to have KDE and Standard as top-levels? If so, our
>> templates are incorrectly categorized still IMO. After all a
>> QtCore-CMake-C++ template has absolutely nothing to do with "KDE".
>> Those would better be in a Qt category I think.
>
> Maybe so.
>
> Qt wasn't split because when this change was done there was a lot of
> the frameworks decisions going on. I think that what we should end up
> having is only Qt for applications and KDE for backends stuff, like
> KIO. Or not.

I think I'm missing something here. Can you please look at
kdevelop/app_templates and tell me why those 3 rather simple
application templates are in a KDE category? I don't see how this has
anything to do with frameworks, even if we fast-forward a year when
frameworks are actually released those three templates are still plain
Qt templates that having nothing to do with KDE (or frameworks).
kapptemplate ships all the KDE-libraries using templates and I totally
agree that those should be in a KDE category.

Andreas