xml namespaces and xsd's

[Ruan Strydom]

Hi

> Hm ok... This is a tough one indeed. But how would the "two chains for a
> document" solve this? You would still have two declarations at the same
> point...

It won't solve searching ranges etc but can build and complete against the 
other chain (the schema one)? No?

Wont the primary language take preference when searching?

Don't reply... just food for thought (hopefully not food poisoning). Shutting 
down......

Thnx, cheers.



On Friday 11 June 2010 22:26:38 Milian Wolff wrote:
> Ruan Strydom, 11.06.2010:
> > Hi Milian, my apologies, my eyes must have deceived me. (I've added your
> > name to my dictionary)
> >
> > You see the reason why I am struggling with this is:
> >
> > The xml is a tree, a bunch of declaration instances and context's, the
> > XSD defines this but is also XML ie: while I am editing the XSD I need it
> > to be parsed as plain XML but when it is included it needs to be parsed
> > as a Schema similar to DTD.
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > <complexType name="blah">
> > 	.....
> > </complexType>
> >
> > this declares an instance of 'complexType' but also declares a type
> > 'blah' creating a conflict. When searching the chain at a certain
> > position which one do I return? Both is at the same location, both have
> > the same range for their context's?
> 
> Hm ok... This is a tough one indeed. But how would the "two chains for a
> document" solve this? You would still have two declarations at the same
> point...
> 
> So yeah, you might actually need to store that type info in a separate
>  place. Note: you can store stuff in the ItemRepository, CPP uses that for
>  Macros e.g. Dunno how easy or hard or easy it is...
> 
> Anyhow, you might actually be able to reuse e.g. some existing Qt XML
>  parser (assuming they are fast) for the case where you want to see whether
>  an item is valid or not in a xml file including that XSD. So you'd
>  essentially have the DUChain for editing a file and some separate stuff to
>  validate files & do code completion in files using that XSD...
> 
> The "problem" would of course be reporting uses etc. pp. in a KDevelop-
> integrated way. But this might still be possible somehow, I have to think
> about it... I still hope to merge both declaration into one but I dunno how
>  it would work...
> 
> > ps: Anyone watching the soccer, I can not help but to ask as I can hear
> > the 'vuvuzelas' in the streets/neighborhood, as I stay in SA.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuvuzela
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > On Friday 11 June 2010 21:39:20 Milian Wolff wrote:
> > > Ruan Strydom, 11.06.2010:
> > > > Hi,  sorry I know the mail is a bit long....
> > > >
> > > > Problem 1: (XSD)
> > > > The parser and builders works pretty well, but to be able to add
> > > > completion to XML I have to implement XSD. The problem is that if I
> > > > am going to build declarations and context's for the XSD document I
> > > > will loose the pretty tree structure that is currently built.
> > > >
> > > > I have thought of two options:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Parse the XSD into a separate structure for completion (perhaps
> > > > using an existing api) ie SchemaCompletionHelper or something?
> > > >
> > > > 2) When Millian has made his changes to support multiple top
> > > > context's I can create a special top context 'sub document' for XSD
> > > > schemas?
> > > >
> > > > Millian: would option 2 be possible with your changes?
> > >
> > > Meh, I'm written with a single 'l' :P
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyhow, can't you use nested contexts to emulate a tree?
> > >
> > > > DTD is a bit of a mess still, it works but not great if it becomes a
> > > > problem I would need to either find a way t fix it or switch to
> > > > option 1 for it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Problem 2: (Namespaces)
> > > >
> > > > How does one declare the following: Ns::SomeClass? I have created
> > > > namespace declarations and namespace aliases and imports ie
> > > > xmlns::ord= "http://..../orders.xsd" (not committed yet) but when
> > > > using it what is this called? What kind of
> > > > declaration is the namespace part in Ns::SomeClass or <ord:order .. >
> > > > how does cpp do it? (could not find it)
> > >
> > > You need contexts. I've just added preliminary namespace support to
> > > PHP,
> > >
> > >  maybe that helps you?
> > >
> > > > Supporting namespace's in XML without proper schema language support
> > > > is going to be a bit of a hack but I am hoping to get some value from
> > > > hacking it, the imports (declarations not contexts) and namespaces
> > > > will be in the chain, so on completion it can be used to find the
> > > > schema to complete with, if using method 1. Else using method 2 the
> > > > uses and imported contexts will simply point to it, if the change of
> > > > Millian will allow cross 'sub document' imports.
> > >
> > > Could you explain that a bit more? What would be the two documents? Do
> > > they actually have different "languages"? Or is it simply two XML
> > > chains? The
> > >
> > >  latter works even now...
> > >
> > > > Thanks allot
> > >
> > > http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-a
> > >t- everything.html
> > >
> > > :P ;-)
> > > :
> > > > ps: Where do you guys find the time?
> > >
> > > being student helps a lot :P
>