What's missing for 4.0

[Aleix Pol]

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Andreas Pakulat <apaku at gmx.de> wrote:

> On 16.09.09 16:08:21, David Nolden wrote:
> > Once again, I think it would be good to re-evaluate what features we need
> to
> > implement before we can release KDevelop 4.0.
>
> I've tried to tag things in bugzilla with Target 1.0.0 and 4.0.0
> respectively, would be good to go over that list and check what might be
> missing or what might be possible to drop.
>
> I haven't been able to go through the wishes again (as I did for bugs
> recently) though.
>
> > So, the stuff that I think we need:
> > - User friendly session management ("Close Session" instead of "Close All
> > Projects", etc.)
> > - A project-model selection mechanism (the dolphin stuff) that is merged
> with
> > the build-set, has a default-selection based on the currently open file,
> and
> > is used used as default for running/debugging
> >
> > And of course massive bug fixing (including the debugger).
> >
> > What's your list?
>
> I don't really know. I guess I'm using kdevelop too little.
> One thing we definetly need - IMHO - is better integration between
> project tree and vcs support (deleting a folder should delete it from
> the VCS, adding a file to vcs should add it to the project). Another
> vcs-related thing is being able to checkout a project from a repository,
> possibly with a repo-browser-toolview.
>
> Another item is the grepview, it works, but it doesn't play well
> together with projects. I don't have a clear plan on that though.
>
> Providing EditorContext for the editor context menu so vcs actions are
> in it (Or does that work already?) and more importantly provide a
> FileContext for the filemanager so we get a fully-loaded context menu
> there.
>
> Another thing we have to decide is what to do about mercurial and git
> support. I know mercurial got some love a few months ago, but I have no
> idea what its state really is. I do know that git's state is pretty bad
> and I also know that if I'd work on it we'd need another 3-5 months to
> finish up as I'd definetly want to rewrite the code in parts.
>
> Then there's documentview, coverage, the whole veritas/xtest stuff,
> valgrind and cvs. I never tried cvs and I think its a plugin that should
> rather be in extragear - who uses cvs these days anyway ;) valgrind
> plain doesn't work (AFAIK) and only the memcheck is properly supported.
> veritas/xtest is unmaintained since almost a year, its hard to use and
> IMHO clear candidate for removal. Same with coverage I think. Leaves
> documentview, it works and has only few (if any) bugs AFAIK, but should
> move to the platform IMHO.
>
> Thats about it. I think spicing up grepview would take 1 full weekend,
> the context-menu-stuff only a day at most. The vcs stuff is a bit more,
> probably doable in 2-3 weekends (features, not fixing up bugs found
> along the way ;)
>
> I'd also like to point out that I think we'll need about 3 months of
> feature freeze for bugfixing. There's already quite a pile of bugreports
> and not all of them are so easy to fix. So I don't think a release this
> year is very probable, rather january next year. This means we could aim
> at releasing with KDE 4.4 (and potentially even requiring it if there
> are important features/bugfixes to use).
>
> Andreas
>
> --
> You will overcome the attacks of jealous associates.
>
> _______________________________________________
> KDevelop-devel mailing list
> KDevelop-devel at kdevelop.org
> https://barney.cs.uni-potsdam.de/mailman/listinfo/kdevelop-devel
>

Even if I agree that there are still missing features that we all would love
to have, I think that since we're releasing a 4.0 version we can go without
it. Actually we desperately need some new release, we don't want people
using 3.* anymore.

I'd propose to follow the KDE 4.4 schedule (for freezing and so on, so that
we can have translations and everything).

As for showstoppers, I think we should get the debugger actually working (i
don't really know the current state, to be fair). Better VCS integration
would be nice to have, but not much of a show stopper.

We have some months still, we're not in so bad shape, so I think we can do
it!

Aleix
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kdevelop-devel/attachments/20090916/a4a51275/attachment.html>