[RFC] Transform workspace into session
rodda at kde.org
Tue Jul 1 11:18:04 UTC 2008
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:30:45 am Jens Dagerbo wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Matt Rogers <mattr at kde.org> wrote:
> > On Monday 30 June 2008 06:33:22 Hamish Rodda wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> On Monday 30 June 2008 08:17:58 Matt Rogers wrote:
> >> > On Sunday 29 June 2008 15:23:52 Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > at the kdevelop sprint we pretty much agreed that some "central"
> >> > > place to store metadata is needed, so I implemented a "workspace"
> >> > > thing thats part of our project tree model. However thinking about
> >> > > this, it doesn't make too much sense there and it also introduces
> >> > > space-wasting in the treeview.
> >> > >
> >> > > Now other apps in KDE have a concept of "session" which IMHO fits
> >> > > here pretty well, we can assign a data-area to a session. So plugins
> >> > > that still want to store some project-unrelated metadata (like
> >> > > teamwork for example, or svn-plugin for repositories) can do it.
> >> > > Also looking at kate this works pretty well, people not interested
> >> > > in it (like Alex) can just tell KDevelop once on first startup to
> >> > > use the default session and never ask again for session-choosing.
> >> > >
> >> > > What do others think? Should we(I) look at how Kate's doing it and
> >> > > eventually try to move some code to kdelibs for 4.2 so we can share
> >> > > code with kate (or else just copy)?
> >> > >
> >> > > Andreas
> >> >
> >> > I like the idea. I dislike Eclipse's notion of a workspace anyways.
> >> I like it too, though I don't really like the way kate asks at
> >> startup... maybe we should just reopen the last session, and then the
> >> user can ask to change sessions if they want (we should be able to do
> >> that pretty fast)
> >> Cheers,
> >> Hamish.
> > Agreed.
> Don't forget that the user will start multiple copies of KDevelop and
> that they will expect KDevelop to handle X sessions (KDev3 never
> managed the latter, which it caught quite some flak for) so that when
> they log out with three KDevelops running they will be able to log
> back in and get all three back with their respective "sessions"
> restored. From what I've seen, Kate doesn't handle this well.
> It really would be cool to have that working properly. I miss session
> restore like crazy at work (windows 2000), it really is one of the
> killer features of the *nix desktop.
> Judging by how people where I work use Eclipse with their java
> project, I imagine they'd go insane without a "named session" feature
> (which is more or less what the eclipse workspace is) that remembers
> their set of projects. Some people here have literary several dozen
> projects loaded into the same workspace - clearly not something you'd
> want to have to set up manually each time.
For those people we can have a session selector with a "open session in a new
instance of kdevelop" button, and a command line switch to bring up the
selector on startup if they _really_ want it.
Otherwise you just get in the way and annoy probably the majority of our
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