[Bug 76707] Guidelines violation: dialog expands outside 800x600 windows

[Frans Englich]

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------- Additional Comments From frans.englich telia com  2004-03-19 16:55 -------
On Friday 19 March 2004 13:29, Amilcar do Carmo Lucas wrote:
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> ------- Additional Comments From a.lucas tu-bs de  2004-03-19 13:29 -------
> Will you fix it?
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> I have no reason to, I have 1024x1280 displays. And I guess all other

Right, 1280x1024.

> KDevelop developers do too.

Well, you need to open your eyes a little.

First of all, this is not my IMHO - it is what the KDE UI Guidelines says.

http://developer.kde.org/documentation/standards/kde/style/basics/windows.html#win_size

That means it has been discussed and agreed upon. And that's why people demand 
KDE applications to follow it and knock developers on the head with it if 
they do not.

I can explain why the guidelines says so. There is a lot of users who run 
800x600. Don't have the "it works for me, and those who don't like it can 
STFU and go somewhere else"-mentality one sometimes stumbles over in open 
source development.

One of the reasons to why I am into open source is it leverages technology so 
everyone can enjoy the benefits with technology without having to live up to 
certain criteria, for example economical. Developing countries, or simply 
just non-programmers don't necessarily have two large monitors in multihead 
configuration.
Leaving out 800x600 means leaving out users.

I think it can be wise to talk to your belly button: When KDevelop can't run 
in 800x600 it locks out users, contributors, supporters etc. The same applies 
for KDE which KDevelop is a large part of. In the end, some other software 
instead of KDevelop/KDE is chosen. Remember, there is (apparently) a lot of 
800x600 users, and especially in the areas where open source is currently 
expanding.

And it's not only about being possible to run in a certain resolution. It is 
in general preferred to have small windows - it means more flexibility, does 
not consume as much space exposes much information in one go for example.

BTW, it expands outside 1024x768 too.

You may very well put it on your TODO as I just have done, but don't say "it 
doesn't matter", or "perhaps it does matter but not for Me" because it is 
either plain wrong or morally doubtable.


			Frans