Goodbye for now, kmail

ianseeks bingmybong at btinternet.com
Tue May 9 11:10:35 BST 2017


On Saturday, 6 May 2017 10:30:18 BST Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Anders Lund - 06.05.17, 11:20:
> > På Sat, 06 May 2017 00:05:56 +0200
> > 
> > Martin Steigerwald <martin at lichtvoll.de> skrev:
> > > I didn´t try Claws Mail yet, but I expect it to get this right and
> > > this is a major advantage of any mail client that gets this right.
> > 
> > Both claws mail and thunderbird displays a mail when asked to. They do
> > not have the BSOD "feature" of kmail. Probably, no other email client
> > in the world is as silly as kmail in this regard. For the rest, I mostly
> > prefer kmail, was it only able to display mails...
> 
> Thanks for confirming that. That is what I´d expect.
> 
> Again, just for clarity:
> 
> KMail isn´t at fault here. It *waits* for Akonadi. There is nothing it can
> do about that. So using your language: It is not KMail that is silly, but
> Akonadi is. (Well some may consider KMail to be silly since it relies on
> Akonadi tough… but I remember KMail pre-akonadi times and its own index
> file management had its flaws as well. It has been more than once that I
> deleted some broken index files back then and KMail then just didn´t show
> its main window until it has rebuild all those index files. Also KMail GUI
> was basically blocked on retrieving new mails via POP or moving lots of
> mails.)

Thats the problem because kmail gets the kicking as its the UI and most of us 
who are not developers are unsure where the separation is so bugs (and rants) 
get posted against kmail instead of akonadi. 
 
> I think the main idea behind Akonadi is brilliant. Have a separate component
> to deal with the work to retrieve, store, cache mails. This way KMail can
> always be responsive to user requests. That it currently despite this nice
> concept is not, is a flaw in Akonadi, not in KMail.
> 
> So I am against moving all the ground work back into KMail – as I fully
> agree to idea to have it outside of it. I am for fixing Akonadi *or* it
> that is not possible within a reasonable amount of time and effort (that
> has been exceeded already if you ask me, but lets say from now on) replace
> it with something that works. Yet Sink even does not have complete
> functionality as of now as far as I Know. It has IMAP, but I don´t think it
> has POP3 which I myself and some other KMails I know of are using, and I am
> not sure about its local maildir capabilities. Not to speak of also
> handling calenders and contacts. And do fulltext indexing.


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