[kdepim-users] dimap, where are mails stored locally and how to back up?

[Martin (KDE)]

Am 05.01.2012 12:31, schrieb Anne Wilson:
> On 01/05/2012 11:06 AM, Martin (KDE) wrote:
>> Am 05.01.2012 11:43, schrieb Anne Wilson:
>>> On 01/05/2012 10:16 AM, Martin (KDE) wrote:
>>>> Am 05.01.2012 10:49, schrieb Anne Wilson:
>>>>> On 01/04/2012 06:03 PM, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
>>>>>> You seem to be using IMAP. Where do you see a problem with
>>>>>> migrating to another client?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The account type formerly known as disconnected IMAP is
>>>>>> nowadays just a subtype of IMAP (with cache policy "cache
>>>>>> everything"). I'm not sure whether Akonadi is supposed to
>>>>>> store everything in its database or whether the mail contents
>>>>>> is supposed to be stored in files.
>>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW, I run IMAP.  I set up Thunderbird by simply pointing it
>>>>> to ~/Maildir, just as I did with KMail. No problem whatsoever.
>>>>> I did have to install several add-ons to get the functionality
>>>>> I'm used to in KMail, but everything I needed was available.
>>>>
>>>> Hm
>>>>
>>>> Anne, are you using imap and maildir (two different accounts) or
>>>> are you accessing the maildir you are using with your dovecot
>>>> server in parallel with thunderbird?. The second case is not the
>>>> intended one.
>>>>
>>> Martin, maildir is the mail storage format, not a different type
>>> of account.  Natively I believe Thunderbird uses mbox, the "other"
>>> storage type, but since you use IMAP that's not relevant.  All my
>>> mail goes to my dovecot server.  Thunderbird uses IMAP access to
>>> read what's on the server - but it could be any IMAP server,
>>> including one on an ISP's hardware.  There's no issue of parallel
>>> access - this is plain and simple imap access.  I don't pop any
>>> mail.
>>
>> Anne
>>
>> that was not my point. I use imap since about ten years now but I
>> never pointed thunderbird (or any other mailclient) to my local
>> maildir storage.
>>
>> One way to set up dovecot is to use maildir folder in users home 
>> directory as storage. With this you can access the same mail by
>> either using the imap server (indirect - account A) or a maildir
>> account pointing to ~/maildir (direct - account B) or both.
>>
>> You wrote that you pointed thunderbird to ~/maildir. Imho this is
>> direct mail access without using the imap server. That was my point.
>> With an imap server the underlying mail storage is transparent to the
>> user, so no need to point to ~/maildir. I just was a little
>> confused.
>>
> I think there is a misunderstanding.  Dovecot is not on my laptop, where
> I normally read.  It is on my LAN.  You are right in that I wasn't
> clear.  TBird on my laptop asks for mail from 192.168.0.xx.  That's
> where dovecot serves up the mail.  When reading locally on the server
> box, something I don't often do, but occasionally, I point to ~/Maildir.

Now I understand. This btw. is somthing which is not possible with cyrus
imap server. cyrus imap stores the mails in one special folder (like
/var/imap in my case) normal users have no access to (not even read).
User management is done internally.

Martin

> 
> Sorry for not being clearer in the first place.
> 
> Anne
> 
> 

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