[kdepim-users] Re: [opensuse] Kmail preview pane

[Stan Goodman]

On Monday, April 04, 2011 12:47:30 AM Ingo Klöcker Ingo Klöcker 
<kloecker at kde.org> wrote:
> On Sunday 03 April 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Sunday 03 April 2011 15:35:40 Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Sunday 03 April 2011 09:32:13 Stan Goodman wrote:
> > > > > > > If you want to show an HTML message as HTML then you need
> > > > > > > to enable "Prefer HTML to Plain Text" for the folder
> > > > > > > temporarily.
> > > > 
> > > > That's a step backward. Clearly, I am not going to reconfigure
> > > > Kmail per message received.
> > > 
> > > HTML mail that is acceptable to you usually comes from specific
> > > sources.  I get emails from several companies that I trust, even
> > > though they do use HTML
> > > 
> > > :-) so I have a Newsletter folder and filter all mail from those
> > > :companies
> > > 
> > > into that folder.  That folder is set to display HTML while other
> > > mail goes to plain text folders.  The rare times I get an HTML
> > > message that isn't from them, I either drag it to that folder, or
> > > temporarily enable it, but it's a fairly rare occurrence.  It's
> > > no bother this way, and it works perfectly for me.
> > 
> > Yes, that's very nice but expecting users to jump through those
> > hoops is brain dead. Removing the structure view is brain dead.
> > 
> > Look, think of it like this:
> > 
> > Mail often consists of various parts. I want to see the parts, then
> > cause an obvious action to happen if I click on the name of a part.
> > 
> > Now, what makes more sense?
> > 
> > a. A view structure pane
> > b. Do some other weird bizarre thing involving filters (Huh? WTF? I
> > DON'T WANT TO FILTER THIS STUFF. I WANT TO VIEW IT). And oh yeah,
> > the filter will only ever be used once.
> > 
> > This is my first post here and I usually try to avoid first posts
> > being critical ones. But the kdepim devs are showing every sign of
> > being brain-dead most notably the one where asking users what they
> > think seems to be beyond their capabilities.
> 
> Your message isn't critical at all. It is outright insulting.

I see it as a legitimate comment on the apparent elimination of a 
desirable and useful feature.
> 
> Funny enough the message structure view is still there (in the View
> menu). I was in error when I claimed that it had been removed.

It is funny, isn't it? Even funnier is the fact that you and apparently 
Ms Wilson (both of whom who are far more in the know than most of us) 
also didn't know that it had merely been moved to the View menu and just 
rushed to make rxcuses. I don't think you have a basis for feeling 
insulted. None of us is clairvoyant.
> 
> Mr. McKinnon, I expect that you apologize to the KDE PIM developers.
> You should have double-checked before you wrote your unfounded harsh
> criticism and your insults.

Then you need to join Mr McKinnon and me in suggesting to the 
development team that they find a way to give users a clue about where 
familiar features have been arbitrarily stashed or that they put up with 
the complaints when we (and you) lose the hide-and-seek game.

> 
> Regards,
> Ingo

-- 
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel
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