[kdepim-users] Font size in KMail HTML viewer

[Art Alexion]

Stan,

I frequently try different email clients. Overall, I don't find some
"better" than others, so much as "different".  And those differences align
in different ways with my personal preferences.

At work, I get my mail from an exchange server, and frequently correspond
with non-technical users who don't know how not to use HTML. For that,
evolution is better, offering good HTML support and exchange connectivity.

At home, mail management is more important to me, and I feel Kmail is a
better mail manager for my needs.

On my phone, I use the gmail app because my open source alternative, k9mail,
doesn't handle gmail IMAP access very well. I use the HTC app for my work
account because k9mail doesn't do native exchange.

My point is, you should try evolution, Thunderbird, even mutt. See which is
better for you. My guess is that you will find things to love and hate in
each of them.

As for the mouse, I can sympathize.  I still have one of those old two
button Kensingtons with the big trackball. Not plugged in, but I can't bring
myself to get rid of it.

Until you mentioned that, I was going to suggest to you that modern, optical
mice with scroll wheels are dirt cheap, probably costing you less than the
value of your time spent in this discussion. Alas, though, the modern
Kensington replacement is about $100 US.  Nice though. Same shape and
ergonomics as the old ones, but optical, with a scroll wheel, and two extra
buttons, programmable as a middle button, or whatever else you find useful.
Worth every penny I spent.

-- 
Art Alexion

On Sep 6, 2010 8:57 PM, "Stan Goodman" <stan.goodman at hashkedim.com> wrote:
> At 02:09:26 on Tuesday Tuesday 07 September 2010, Pascal Hasko Bernhard
> <pascal.hasko.bernhard at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Am 06.09.2010 22:01, schrieb Stan Goodman:
>> > At 21:56:49 on Monday Monday 06 September 2010, Ingo Klöcker
>> >
>> > <kloecker at kde.org> wrote:
>> >> On Sunday 05 September 2010, Stan Goodman wrote:
>> >>> At 23:12:25 on Sunday Sunday 05 September 2010, Ingo Klöcker
>> >>>
>> >>> <kloecker at kde.org> wrote:
>> >>>> On Sunday 05 September 2010, Stan Goodman wrote:
>> >>>>> Changing the font size in the message window is duck soup, but I
>> >>>>> do not find a way to do the same thing for the HTML viewer. What
>> >>>>> am I overlooking?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> KMail is v1.9.10.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That's KDE 3.5.10.
>> >>>
>> >>> That's true.
>> >>>
>> >>>> I assume by message window you mean the separate message viewer
>> >>>> one gets by double clicking a message. And by HTML viewer you mean
>> >>>> the message pane in the main window, right?
>> >>>
>> >>> The message window is where one reads the plain-text of incoming
>> >>> messages. The HTML viewer is where a HTML-formatted version is
>> >>> displayed.
>> >>
>> >> Hmm. I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
>> >
>> > I don't know how it can be made more clear.
>> >
>> >>>> You can change the font size in both viewers for example with
>> >>>> Ctrl+Mouse wheel.
>> >>>
>> >>> My mouse doesn't have wheels. I can change the font size in the
>> >>> message window by Settings > Configure KMail > Appearance > Fonts.
>> >>> I do not see a way to either choose a font or change the style or
>> >>> size of an existing font. Surely there must be a way.
>> >>
>> >> The thing with HTML is that the HTML tells KMail which font size to
>> >> use. I'm not sure whether the standard keyboard shortcuts of
>> >> Konqueror for changing the font size work in KMail 1.9. Try whether
>> >> Ctrl+Plus (and Ctrl+Minus) work. (In KMail 1.13 they do not work.
>> >> :-( )
>> >
>> > Then maybe this is a good time to try Evolution. Perhaps it is more
>> > complete than KMail in this respect.
>> >
>> > ^+ and ^- are normal for browsers; one would have thought that the
>> > developers of KMail would have understood why they are handy.
>> > Apparently they don't.
>> >
>> > I find the text displayed in the HTML viewer to be so small that I
>> > need to squint, or sometimes to give up reading it and go on to
>> > something more productive. It is very hard to believe that there is
>> > no means provided to enlarge the text. Or to use instead an external
>> > viewer like a browser.
>>
>> Hi Stan,
>>
>> I can totally understand your frustration, as I also have a problem
>> with tiny fonts in HTML-mails. With Kmail 1.12 the keyboard 'shortcut'
>> CTRL+Plus works well.
>> Don't get me wrong, but purchasing a mouse with a scroll wheel is in
>> IMHO definitively not the worst decision you could make. Thus you can
>> increase the font size holding the CTRL-key pressed while scrolling,
>> it's really easy. In Kmail all content of the HTML message is thus
>> increased, pictures and graphics also, while doing the same in
>> Evolution only increases the font, which makes some mails look quite
>> weird.
>>
>> Pascal
>
> It may be. But my machines all have Kensington two-button "Expert Mouse"
> trackballs, which I do not feel impelled to replace. That the mouse wheel
> may make it convenient to size the text is not the issue. In a sane
> world, sizing would not be dependent upon the existence of a mouse wheel.
> In fact, it has much more to do with the indifference of KDE developers
> to the needs of users outside the team -- which is nothing to be proud
> of, and which is a much broader problem than only font sizing.
>
> I'll check Evolution, and I'll check Thunderbird to see if either provides

> this simple facility that should so obviously be provided with an HTML
> viewer. I would bet that the latter will be that capable.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Stan Goodman
> Qiryat Tiv'on
> Israel
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