[kdepim-users] Moving mail to folder makes it disappear

Tue May 18 23:14:15 BST 2010

On Tuesday 18 May 2010 23:18:07 Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 May 2010, Pascal Bernhard wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > once again I have to ask for your kind help. I'm using a
> > Googlemail-account with IMAP-protocol. Since yesterday, when I move
> > a message from the 'general message' list to a folder (choosing the
> > option 'Move here' in the dialogue box that opens when moving the
> > mouse over the folder in question) Kmails starts executing the
> > action but then I get the warning in the notification bar at the
> > lower end that the "Action has been aborted" and then the message is
> > totally gone. I can't find it anywhere after that. I can copy
> > messages to folders though. any thoughts? Glad to provide some more
> > information in case needed.
> 
> Googlemail works very erratic in combination with IMAP. The problem is
> that Google has its own idea of how you should deal with your mail. From
> Google's perspective folders are collections of messages satisfying
> certain criteria, e.g. messages with the same tag. From IMAP's
> perspective moving a message is nothing else but a copy followed by a
> deletion. Now, if you copy a message to a folder Google does in fact set
> the folder's tag on this message. I have no idea how Google handles the
> deletion of a message. Following Google's logic the deletion of a
> message will remove the tag corresponding to the folder containing the
> message. Therefore the message will vanish from the folder, but it
> should still be available in the All Messages folder (or whatever it is
> called). I'd look in this folder for the message you are missing.
> 
> I'm sure other users who are actually using Googlemail will be able to
> fill in the gaps in my description.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Ingo
> 
Hi Ingo, 
you are totally right that Google is quite erratic. By now the messages have 
appeared again. It seems that they 'have taken some time out'. In fact the 
first place I went to look for them was the folder 'All messages' but I didn't 
see them there either, so I assumed they were gone forever. In future, I will 
only copy mails, and then delete them in the original folder, that seems the 
safer way to me. There are some other issues with Google as well, like getting 
a message from time to time that my folders do not exist anymore (doesn't say 
whether locally on my computer, where they are bright and shining, or on the 
server side). At least in the end nothing really bad has happened so far. It 
is not the really reassuring though.

Thanks for your support. I don't feel alone anymore with Google's weird 
behaviour.

Pascal
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