[kdepim-users] Identities in Kmail

Ingo Klöcker kloecker at kde.org
Mon Sep 15 21:20:13 BST 2008

On Monday 15 September 2008, Stan Goodman wrote:
> At 19:39:59 on Monday Monday 15 September 2008, Anne Wilson
> <cannewilson at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday 15 September 2008 10:57:09 Stan Goodman wrote:
> > > I am using Kmail v3.57 in openSuSE v10.3.
> > >
> > > I have defined four identities for outgoing messages, a Default
> > > for the great majority of messages, and three for specific small
> > > groups of To addresses that I wish to bear variant signatures and
> > > return addresses.
> > >
> > > In order to accomplish this, I have set three filters, typically
> > > as follows:
> > >
> > > Under "filter Criteria" is a list of "To contains" addresses
> > > ("Match any" is checked),
> > >
> > > Under "Filter Actions", "Set identity to" is set to the name of
> > > the desired identy.
> > >
> > > On the Advanced page, "Apply this filter to sent messages" is
> > > checked.

Such a filter is applied after the message has been sent. That's why the 
option reads "Apply this filter to sent messages" as opposed to "Apply 
this filter to outgoing messages". Yes, I know that the semantic 
difference between "sent" and "outgoing" is very subtle.

Note, that we explicitly chose not to allow automatic manipulation of 
messages before sending them.

> > > This does not do what I expected, and the message nevertheless
> > > goes out with the Default identity; without any change by the
> > > filter. What, if anything, do I have to do to choose these
> > > variant identities for those outgoing messages? If this is
> > > impossible, I am at a loss to understand what is the purpose of
> > > having more than one identity.
> >
> > Stan, I've never tried to do that using filters so I honestly don't
> > know whether it's possible.  On my system I have separate folders
> > for such criteria as needing a particular identity.  Then it's
> > easy, using the folder's context menu
> >
> > Anne
> Thank you, I understand. It must have been very obvious to the
> authors that it would have been logical to provide an automatic way
> to do this, and the team ran out of steam before doing it. One of its
> members explained that recently in another context. It's fortunate
> that there is a manual way to do it, though I think it is messy
> design.
> The drawback of having to put the variant message into a separate
> folder as you suggest is that one has to remember to do so. The whole
> reason that I was looking for a filter to accomplish the switch was
> that I had been changing the signature block within the message body,
> but do not always remember to do this. Who knows? Maybe they will fix
> this in the a future release.
> But then I do not grasp the purpose of the unexplained ability in the
> Filter-configuration window, for allowing selection of identity; I
> wonder if anyone does.

It is meant for incoming messages. If you reply to an incoming message 
that has been assigned to a certain identity then this identity will be 
used for the reply. So really the only problem is with new messages.

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