[kmail2] [Bug 377070] Kmail emptied inbox, all emails deleted!!!

[William L. Thomson Jr.]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377070

--- Comment #10 from William L. Thomson Jr. <wlt-ml at o-sinc.com> ---
(In reply to Martin Steigerwald from comment #9)
> William, do you really expect someone to read this after all your previous
> ranting? I wouldn´t.

I have different expectations of others. Given the experience, I could
understand if another was expressing frustration due to issues. If software I
wrote caused serious problems for another. I would likely read it if they took
the time to write it. If they did not care, they would not even comment right?

> Also "something with filters" is *waaaaay* to unspecific in order to say
> anything about it. So if you have a reproducable bug regarding filters, feel
> free to report it, but please 1. with a different tone, and 2. in a *new*
> bug report.

I would but I moved on and am not able to help in that process. If its not
effecting others it would just be a false report.

> I do have an insanely complex filter setup and it works just fine. But there
> are many ways to setup filters in a way that they conflict which each other
> and so on, so what you see can easily just be a result of misconfigured
> filters (i.e. mistake made by you as an user.)

I would love to blame myself. But I had not messed with filters in some time. I
had lots of them, and they worked fine. Once I setup them up I rarely change.
They had been the same for some time, across a few versions of Kmail2. I cannot
explain what caused emails to end up in all sorts of folders they did not
belong. I just assumed it was a filter, as that seems to be the only think that
sorts emails. It very well could have been something else.

> Thanks, Martin (do not expect me to reply to any rants you may come up with,
> its not that I think Akonadi is perfect – far from it, I even agree it might
> be good to replace it at some time, maybe with the new Sink – but for me it
> basically works quite okayish meanwhile).

Sorry for the rant, but having had numerous email issues with Kmail2. I was at
my limits. I can handle issues with many things, but email is not one. More so
when used to make a living and losing important work emails. Its not something
others even tend to believe. My email client screwed up and deleted emails.
Yeah right that was something you did. Just like my issues with filters was
blamed on me, regardless if it was a user issue or not. Which I am pretty sure
I did not mess up filters. They worked before and after.

I had no clue the emails were in the wrong folders. I thought they were
deleted. Many did not even match any filter as they were from my inbox. It was
super weird but given my numerous issues and lost emails before. It was not
till migrating to Claws Mail that I found them and commented.

> Thank you and good luck with Claws Mail.


Thus far months later not a single issue with claws mail other than some very
minor UI quirks. I haven't even bothered to file bugs. I may look to submit
patches/PR in any bug report as part. Being more familiar with C than C++.

Part of why I moved on. I did not see myself being in a position to actually
help with the issues. At least I reported them. Its not like most take time to
report bugs.

I think if you put yourself in my shoes you can understand the frustration and
rants....

Thanks for being receptive, dealing with the rant, and closing with a polite
statement! I really liked KMail2, just not the backend stuff. I am a DB guy but
more of one to put it all in the db. Syncing dbs with files on disk is
difficult. But filters many avoid. Part of why I left QT was like Trojita, the
alternative to Kmail2 will not get filters. The developers I believe are anti
filters. I need filters :)

Maybe to filter myself at times.... :P

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