[Kdenlive-devel] Finally, a few keyboard shortcuts.

Reinhard Amersberger protux at web.de
Thu May 1 14:35:42 UTC 2003


kdenlive-devel at lists.sourceforge.net schrieb am 30.04.03 23:54:15:
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Reinhard Amersberger [mailto:protux at web.de]
> >
> > What do you think about using the ESC-key to toggle between 
> > the monitors?
> > AVID use the ESC-key to activate the timeline, for example.
> 
> I'm not convinced that ESC would be the best key to pick, it doesn't feel as
> if it fits with the KDE UI guidelines very well. But perhaps another key
> would make sense - TAB seems to be the obvious one?


But you convinced me! ;-))
Yes, TAB seems to be a good choice.

Maybe some special view modes could be another possibillity.
I mean having a standard view mode showing the source monitor and the timeline monitor, a trim mode, a capture mode, a play out mode, ..... 
So user simply have to choose one of this modes - maybe by the Fn keys - to re-arrange the interface for this special purposes very fast.


 
> Incidentally, I have some thoughts on how to add keyboard editing commands
> to the timeline itself. I'll mention it here, tell me what you think :
> 
> Have a keyboard "cursor" on the timeline. Like in a text edit session, this
> can be moved forwards/backwards across the particular line, or it can be
> moved up and down particular tracks. Pressing Ctrl-Left/Ctrl-Right moves you
> to the end/beginning of the next clip. Selecting clips can be achieved via
> the shift key - in other words, following the conventions of text editing.
> 
> Press a key, and you 'grab' either the selected clips, or the clip the
> cursor is currently over. Move the cursor and the clips follow. Ctrl can
> still be used to zoom around.


This sounds to be a very good idea.


I also would like to move the selected stuff more precise.
The idea is to select a thing that should be moved by entering an exact value.
Things could be clips, borders, markers, In/Out points, key frames, ......
Some examples:
- Select one or some clips or just a part of a clip, then enter 10 and hit a key  to move this 10 frames to right.
- Select the right border of a clip, enter -1.10 and hit a key to move this clip border 1 second and 10 frames to the left side.


 
> I need to put more thought into it before I decide if it's a useful way of
> working.  My idea is to have a complete or almost-complete keyboard based
> way of editing for poor laptop users like myself :-), any
> thoughts/suggestions, or alternative ways to do it?


I've heard about a technique called JMB (libmustux) ........  hehehe - just again the old joke!  ;-))

But serious ... I was on the way to call Luciano if it is possible to use the libmustux just like a plug-in, so user could activate it if wanted, but unfortunatelly he is offline at the moment since he running out of money.
But this will change soon AFAIK. :-)


Also here comes some more ideas enhancing the In/Out and loop functionallity:

- Enter a value and press the I or O key to move the In/out point (like the axamples above).

- Press U to reset the In/Out points.

- Press P to play from In to Out point
(the last two are stolen from Mainactor 5 ;-))

- Press shift+P to loop the region from In to Out point.

- Go to the last edit and Press L to loop the last edit (some seconds before and some after)

- Select the In or Out point - maybe by shift+I and shift+O - and use the left and right arrow to move it by frames, just like the timeline cursor.

- Press P+I to start a short play back (3 seconds ?) at the In point.

- Press P+O to start a short play 'thru' the Out point
 

 
> I've never been quite sure what the ALT GR key does :-)


To be more precise - it's the key on the right side of the space bar and is used to access the third character.
For example:
Press '9' to print a '9'
Press 'shift+9' to print a ')'
Press 'Alt Gr+9' to print a ']'


greetings
Reinhard
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