An active Kate user group?

[Duncan]

Richard Owlett posted on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 07:00:04 -0600 as excerpted:

> On 12/3/24 3:16 AM, Duncan wrote:
>> Richard Owlett posted on Sun, 1 Dec 2024 05:52:43 -0600 as excerpted:
>> 
>>> I'm looking for an active Kate focused user group whose
>>> discussion would stimulate thought.
>> 
>> Here's what a quick browse turned up here, assuming you hadn't found it
>> yet:
>> 
>> https://kate-editor.org
> 
> Yes, I've been there. Don't consider it user-friendly. JavaScript
> required to display site navigation menu. Due to vision and perception
> problems I surf with JavaScript disabled.

FWIW I've /some/ issues in that area as well, but apparently not to your 
extent.  (I recently discovered that the reason normal "light background" 
color schemes give me headaches is my very strong -10 diopter 
nearsightedness correction, making my lifelong reverse/dark/nite color-
scheme preference literally an accessibility issue for me!  Which in turn 
implies that the dark-reader extension I use to cope with the web's 
ubiquitous glaring white backgrounds is one of my accessibility tools... 
said discovery was recent enough I'm obviously still feeling out some of 
the implications.)

But restricting javascript (via ublock origin in default-block mode) is 
more a security issue for me, and by default I allow first-party scripts 
as for the most part I trust sites I choose to visit to /that/ extent 
(obviously they already know I'm visiting and thus by definition cannot be 
third-party tracking the visit, for instance, and additional known-tracker 
blocking avoids many of the external-link-click trackers).  The problem of 
course is that web sources are routinely fragmented and code dynamically 
multi-sourced, so most sites are semi-broken when I first visit, until I 
configure which of the outsourced code servers I trust enough to allow for 
that site.

But kate-editor.org worked reasonably for me, either because the required 
javascript is first-party or possibly because I had been there before and 
already jumped through the configuration hoops to make it work.  So I 
didn't see the problem you did.

> That I had visited
> https://kate-editor.org/support/ back in July indicates I recognized the
> problem.
> 
> 
>> ... Seems to have a kate developer blog, and (under more, get help)
>> mentions a kwrite-devel list. (Yes the list name says devel but the
>> page says for users too.
> 
> At that time I looked at 3 months of history - very low volume and only
> non developers were expert users. Looked at intervening history and
> found only one newbie question - it got no response :{

That's... sad.  As demonstrated right on this thread, even when I don't 
consider myself more than passingly familiar with a topic, to the extent I 
can I try to make sure every non-spam inquiry gets at least a hopefully 
helpful pointer to where I'd start a search if I had the same question.  
And even if my reply ends up providing no practical help, at least they 
know someone saw the question and /tried/, which as a sometimes poster of 
my own questions I know can mean a lot, even if it's only "moral support"!

>> FWIW kwrite is the somewhat simpler single-document-
>> interface version of the multi-document-interface kate -- they share
>> plugins/tools/etc and at least with the older versions I used in the
>> past
> 
> The description in the Debian repository was attractive - just installed
> it. I may be in its target audience. It will at least give me more
> perspective.

Well there we are. =:^)  Maybe I was of at least incremental help (beyond 
the moral support) after all, even if almost by accident as it was an 
aside. =:^)

Actually, that an aside ends up being of at least incremental help either 
to the OP or to the person attempting to help happens surprisingly often, 
and that unexpected if often incremental help, regardless of which side it 
helps, is surely one of my more powerful motivators to continue my 
attempts.  It's an addicting enough feeling to have kept me at it over a 
quarter century now! =:^) (From before the turn of the century in the 
MSIE/MSOE newsgroups, before I switched to Linux when MS jumped the 
eXPrivacy shark.)

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