Clear KDE
Duncan
1i5t5.duncan at cox.net
Sat Mar 31 22:26:18 BST 2012
Nikos Chantziaras posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:19:00 +0300 as excerpted:
> On 31/03/12 13:07, Duncan wrote:
>> Nikos Chantziaras posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:16:06 +0300 as
>> excerpted:
>>
>>> In case you missed it, you should install the Gtk port of Oxygen:
>>> x11-themes/oxygen-gtk (and x11-themes/oxygen-gtk3 in case you need Gtk
>>> 3 later.) This isn't a "fake" theme btw. It's a real Gtk engine and
>>> pretty much the official Gtk port of KDE's Oxygen style.
>>
>> Thanks! I had seen the package mentioned, but FWIW I wasn't clear on
>> what oxygen bits it ported, etc. Your clarification that it's oxygen
>> widgets helps quite a bit there. (I run oxygen widget-styles but not
>> window trim
>
> Btw, what's "window trim?"
Window decorations, in kde settings (under workspace appearance).
There's an oxygen choice there, altho I've been using the kde2 choice.
There's also the oxygen style under application appearance (which I do
use), and there's the workspace (aka plasma) themes (below), which have
an oxygen choice as well. There's also the oxygen icon theme and the
oxygen color scheme.
With all those bits labeled "oxygen" but each bit being different, it
wasn't immediately clear to me which of those oxygen-gtk emulated for gtk
apps. And since in some cases I run the oxygen choice and in others I've
chosen something else or entirely customized things, I simply didn't
think about which of them oxygen-gtk /could/ reasonably emulate, but
instead was just punting based on the assumed complexity and previous
negative experience with rather different cross-toolkit solutions. See
below.
>> or plasma-themes
>
> I don't think Plasma is relevant to anything Gtk.
I believe you're correct, but I hadn't resolved it at that level until
your clarification. I was simply looking at the fact that there's a lot
of different components that come under the "oxygen" label, and thinking
about the complexity at that level, without realizing that in reality,
only the oxygen widgets style component made sense in that context... the
rest really didn't/couldn't apply.
Additionally, I believe I was thinking about the curve style that could
be applied to both gtk/gnome and qt/kde at one point, but at least from
the kde side, was rather a step down from kde's native styling. I had
tried that at some point and almost immediately killed it, and I guess I
thought this was something similar, so wasn't particularly interested.
But as it's more a port of native kde styling to gtk, while keeping kde
native styling the way it is, instead of stooping to the lowest common
denominator, it's now far more appealing to me. You were the one that
explained that to me, and for that I can thank you. =:^)
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
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