Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

[Serginho]

I have not read all your mail. Because I was reading your mail some time before.
I noticed your cool word "akonadification".
And the method that you are describing is clear. I saw it first a little bit before in Opennet.ru forum.
Some man mentioned about kde,libs,pim and USE.
And I think that he also read your description before.
Thanks. It is very good explanation. Thanks again. God bless you.
But for me to install Gentoo is about 8 hours of work because I'm every time rereading
Handbook to make the installation in right as-developers-said way.
Gentoo is nice. And I'm Gentoo-ish in mind.
But this is my 'transit' computer-box for now and I installed other
not source-based distribution. But in console way. Of cource. :)
Probably it is my fate - if I'm a linux user and like KDE and KDE is crazy now
for compiled distributions, the only way is to use the best and the most
professional distribution Gentoo.

But all the other users will be waisting their time to get rid of semantic.

Now I will go to read your mail. I haven't read it first because I really wanted
to say you some words of respect for your explanation which I saw before.
Please don't think about cyrillic something wrong. They are polite.
And they also like the truth and justice.
--
Regards
Serginho

On 31.03.2012 at 10:32 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan at cox.net> wrote:
>
>KDE lover but not user posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:59:04 +0400 as
>excerpted:
>
>> Akonadi, strigi, virtuoso and nepomuk. There are more words of 
>"this
>> cool feature" then even about base apps.
>> I only need Kwin, Dolphin and Kate. Why do I need face these 
>warriors
>> when i only need to read and write text? No more text? Only 
>features?
>> For whom?
>> Forums are full of disabling, changing executable permission, 
>deleting
>> and words "Disaster".
>
>FWIW, I run gentoo here, and as long as you're not using any 
>kdepim apps 
>(which due to deps, some at the kde and some at the gentoo level, 
>requires akonadi, which in turn forces on gentoo's USE=semantic-
>desktop 
>and with it, nepomuk, virtuoso, etc), it's possible to set USE=-
>semantic-
>desktop and build without all that cpu and memory hogging junk.
>
>Ironically, it was only after the kmail akonadification persuaded 
>me to 
>get off it (claws-mail now) and all kdepim apps entirely 
>(akregator was 
>the other one I used, again claws-mail now, with the feed plugin), 
>allowing me to kill akonadi and then the whole semantic-desktop, 
>that I 
>really began to seriously appreciate and fully enjoy the rest of 
>kde4, to 
>the same extent that I had kde3.5.7+.  Ironic, because the 
>semantic-
>desktop stuff was one of the big headline features of kde4...
>
>kde4 runs WAY faster with all that semantic-desktop stuff not only 
>disabled, but entirely configured out at build-time.  Seriously, I 
>had 
>forgotten what a fast and responsive desktop was, and I rather 
>felt like 
>the MSWormOS users do after finding out how much resources either 
>the 
>viruses or their scan-on-use AV was using, and how much it was 
>slowing 
>down the system!  It was as if I upgraded by a half-gigahertz or 
>got a 
>couple extra cpu cores, just for killing that stuff!
>
>
>But... as John MC-D said, there's a lot of other choices out there 
>besides kde.  If kde's not doing it for you and you can't 
>configure it to 
>your liking so it does do it for you, definitely find something 
>else, as 
>I did with kmail when it akonadified, switching to the gtk-based 
>claws-
>mail.  Killing the semantic-desktop stuff (akonadi, nepomuk, 
>virtuoso, 
>etc) definitely dramatically improved the rest of the kde 
>experience for 
>me, but it's not something that just anyone will be able to do... 
>not 
>everyone runs gentoo and/or builds from source, and if you're 
>running a 
>binary-based distro, those choices are made for you by the folks 
>that 
>build it.
>
>FWIW, there's still a build/link dependencies on strigi for 
>kdelibs here, 
>so it's still installed, but it's built without the clucene or 
>hyperestraier options, and nepomuk, etc, is disabled (and not 
>installed) 
>via USE=-semantic-desktop, so it's pretty neutered as it has no 
>backends 
>to use.  It's providing the deps that kdelibs appears to need and 
>that's 
>about it.  And strigi itself, without its backends, is a pretty 
>fast 
>build, certainly so compared to kdelibs.
>
>
>Meanwhile, kde5, aka kde frameworks, is planned to modularize 
>things far 
>more (thus the frameworks bit), and hopefully that'll allow even 
>the 
>users of binary distros that default to semantic-desktop support 
>to 
>entirely opt-out of installing it if they don't want/need it, 
>without 
>forcing a rebuild just to get at what is now build-time-only 
>options, in 
>many cases.
>
>-- 
>Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
>"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
>and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman
>
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