What is hijacking Konsole?

gene heskett gheskett at wdtv.com
Mon Oct 31 04:35:21 GMT 2011

On Monday, October 31, 2011 12:26:18 AM Duncan did opine:

> Dotan Cohen posted on Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:33:13 +0200 as excerpted:
> > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 22:58, Zorael <zorael at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Are you running xbindkeys? At least on *buntus, it's set up by
> >> default to launch xterm on Ctrl+F.
> >> 
> >> Quoth .xbindkeysrc;
> >> 
> >>> # set directly keycode (here control + f with my keyboard)
> >>> "xterm"
> >>> آ  c:41 + m:0x4
> > 
> > Wow, you're right! Who is the genius who thought to hijack Ctrl-F,
> > which is "Find" in almost every application!?!
> So I was correct with the global-grab and non-kde theories! =:^)
> But I was somewhat thrown off by the assumption that someone would have
> tested that keystroke in other apps, before posting a question about it
> that blamed the problem on konsole.  Still, while specific window
> global- level-grabs (perhaps specific-window X-level is a better
> description here, since the grabs aren't really global, tho the would
> be if not limited to a specific window) are indeed possible, since
> they're less common, I was forced to assume that either that testing
> had NOT taken place, or a rather less common grab mode was being used,
> and my proposed tests reflected the fact that I wasn't sure of that
> assumption.  So it threw me off only slightly, and the test results
> would have confirmed the fallacy of that assumption, bringing us right
> back on course toward a trace-down.
> As for "hijacking" Ctrl-f, while modern x86 keyboards generally have a
> meta/super/hyper/windows/linux key that due to its relatively recent
> invention, doesn't show up on so many app-level key-bindings, so it's a
> relatively safe key to use for global bindings, apps that don't assume
> it exists (or is configured correctly), as xbindkeys apparently
> doesn't, don't have the luxury of using that key for global bindings
> and thus avoiding the standard, often already bound, control/alt/shift
> modifier combos.
> As a result there's bound to be conflicts when such bindings are global-
> grabbed, and the author was forced to either ship with few if any
> global- grabs active by default, or to assume that a user advanced
> enough to go looking for and installing a global-grab hotkey app, would
> also be advanced enough to look over the default grabs and deactivate
> or modify the ones that didn't suit his purposes.
> It seems both his assumption, that anyone advanced enough to go looking
> for and install such an app would immediately check the config and
> modify it to their own purposes, and mine, that anyone trying to trace
> strange key behavior would test it in more than one app before posting,
> blaming it on a single app, were both incorrect.
> Oh, well...
> At least the problem was traced and corrected, tho.  That's the
> important bit! =:^)

Considering I'm running kde-4.6.5 here on pclos, I just tested mine and a 
plain ctl+f does indeed bring up the find bar.  So this might be a distro 
specific thing.  But I'll also submit that the use of "genius" was 
obviously satirical. ;p)  Whomever did that is I trust suitably chastised 
by now.  Ditto for grabbing mc's f-keys.  Inexcusable, and should be the 
subject of a session with a LART out behind the barn IMO. IIRC those have 
come back, but don't recall which update did it now.

Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
My web page: <http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene>
Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable.
This message is from the kde mailing list.
Account management:  https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde.
Archives: http://lists.kde.org/.
More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.

More information about the kde mailing list