Once again kmail's folder creation fails
1i5t5.duncan at cox.net
Fri Aug 19 06:52:07 BST 2011
gene heskett posted on Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:26:38 -0400 as excerpted:
> KDE-4.6.5, 32 bit.
> For some reason, the new folder thing insists on creating a sub-folder,
> and will not allow it to be moved to the same directory level as the
> inbox/outbox and about 40 other folders all visible in this top level
> Am I not chewing the right stuff or ??
You mention the kde version (good), but do note that kmail is part of
kdepim, which unfortunately makes things rather more complicated than
that. The problem is that kdepim was stuck at the 4.4.x level for some
time as they worked out problems in the new "akonadified" kmail2. There
was a kdepim 4.6.0 and 4.6.1 release, but they came out much later than
the rest of kde 4.6 (kdepim 4.6.0 came out about the time of kde 4.6.3,
IIRC, and kdepim 4.6.1 was after that, between kde 4.6.4 and kde 4.6.5,
I /think/), and apparently were even then for early-adopters only.
So it's quite likely that you have only kdepim 4.4.x, with x=10 or higher.
It makes quite a difference, as the kdepim 4.6 versions were both
relatively unstable for kmail, and I wouldn't be surprised to see this
sort of bug at all, with them.
Meanwhile, kdepim got back in sync with the rest of kde for 4.7.0, so
with the 4.7 series, you can again refer simply to the kde version when
talking about kmail (except that some distros /may/ decide to stick with
the older kdepim 4.4 thru 4.7, too, but that'd be distro-specific if they
Meanwhile(2), we've had a number of previous thread-discussions, but I'm
not sure if you've followed my postings since. If you have, you already
know that after testing it with the kdepim 4.6 series, I decided the new
akonadified kmail was not for me, and after nearly a decade on kmail
(since kde2 era, 2002, with imports from MSOE that go back another half-
decade or so), I've now switched to claws-mail.
Here's the warning. I suspect you, as me, aren't going to be
particularly happy with the new akonadified kmail. However, if you have
a large existing local mail store (not IMAP, local mbox or maildir) as I
did, migrating to claws-mail won't be particularly easy. OTOH, unless
they make migration from kmail-1 easier, that migration won't be
particularly easy either.
OTOH, if you're on IMAP or don't have a huge local mail collection that
you are particularly worried about carrying forward, things should be a
LOT easier for you either way you go, staying with the new akonadified
kmail2, or switching to claws-mail or something else.
But either way, assuming you are still using the older kdepim 4.4 series
kmail1, expect that you may have some issues when you upgrade to kde 4.7
and thus the akonadified kmail2. If you're thinking about switching to
something else, doing it now, before that upgrade, will save you the
hassle of both that upgrade, deciding you don't like it, and then
switching to something else, and either way, upgrading kmail or
switching, you can expect some difficulties in the process. How bad
those are depends on a lot of factors, including whether you want to be
sure and take all your existing mail with you, whether you're on IMAP or
POP3+local-folders, how many mail addresses you have, whether and to what
extent you take advantage of kmail's filtering system, etc. But you're
forewarned now, and I'd DEFINITELY plan to spend some extra time on it
when you do that upgrade, regardless of whether it's to the new kmail2,
or a switch to something else.
OTOH, if you choose to stick with kmail and get lucky, it'll go all
smooth for you and you'll wonder what I was making a big deal of! In
fact, if you're already running kdepim 4.6 (not just the rest of kde
4.6), you've apparently probably already done that upgrade, and since I
didn't see any posts from you complaining about it (you can check the
archive for mine), it apparently went far better for you than it did for
me, and now you're just having a folder creation problem. If so, count
yourself lucky indeed, as you got off FAR easier than I did, for sure!
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