Once again kmail's folder creation fails

Duncan 1i5t5.duncan at cox.net
Fri Aug 19 06:52:07 BST 2011

gene heskett posted on Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:26:38 -0400 as excerpted:

> KDE-4.6.5, 32 bit.
> For some reason, the new folder thing insists on creating a sub-folder,
> and will not allow it to be moved to the same directory level as the
> inbox/outbox and about 40 other folders all visible in this top level
> list.
> Am I not chewing the right stuff or ??

You mention the kde version (good), but do note that kmail is part of 
kdepim, which unfortunately makes things rather more complicated than 
that.  The problem is that kdepim was stuck at the 4.4.x level for some 
time as they worked out problems in the new "akonadified" kmail2.  There 
was a kdepim 4.6.0 and 4.6.1 release, but they came out much later than 
the rest of kde 4.6 (kdepim 4.6.0 came out about the time of kde 4.6.3, 
IIRC, and kdepim 4.6.1 was after that, between kde 4.6.4 and kde 4.6.5, 
I /think/), and apparently were even then for early-adopters only.

So it's quite likely that you have only kdepim 4.4.x, with x=10 or higher.

It makes quite a difference, as the kdepim 4.6 versions were both 
relatively unstable for kmail, and I wouldn't be surprised to see this 
sort of bug at all, with them.

Meanwhile, kdepim got back in sync with the rest of kde for 4.7.0, so 
with the 4.7 series, you can again refer simply to the kde version when 
talking about kmail (except that some distros /may/ decide to stick with 
the older kdepim 4.4 thru 4.7, too, but that'd be distro-specific if they 

Meanwhile(2), we've had a number of previous thread-discussions, but I'm 
not sure if you've followed my postings since.  If you have, you already 
know that after testing it with the kdepim 4.6 series, I decided the new 
akonadified kmail was not for me, and after nearly a decade on kmail 
(since kde2 era, 2002, with imports from MSOE that go back another half-
decade or so), I've now switched to claws-mail.

Here's the warning.  I suspect you, as me, aren't going to be 
particularly happy with the new akonadified kmail.  However, if you have 
a large existing local mail store (not IMAP, local mbox or maildir) as I 
did, migrating to claws-mail won't be particularly easy.  OTOH, unless 
they make migration from kmail-1 easier, that migration won't be 
particularly easy either.

OTOH, if you're on IMAP or don't have a huge local mail collection that 
you are particularly worried about carrying forward, things should be a 
LOT easier for you either way you go, staying with the new akonadified 
kmail2, or switching to claws-mail or something else.

But either way, assuming you are still using the older kdepim 4.4 series 
kmail1, expect that you may have some issues when you upgrade to kde 4.7 
and thus the akonadified kmail2.  If you're thinking about switching to 
something else, doing it now, before that upgrade, will save you the 
hassle of both that upgrade, deciding you don't like it, and then 
switching to something else, and either way, upgrading kmail or 
switching, you can expect some difficulties in the process.  How bad 
those are depends on a lot of factors, including whether you want to be 
sure and take all your existing mail with you, whether you're on IMAP or 
POP3+local-folders, how many mail addresses you have, whether and to what 
extent you take advantage of kmail's filtering system, etc.  But you're 
forewarned now, and I'd DEFINITELY plan to spend some extra time on it 
when you do that upgrade, regardless of whether it's to the new kmail2, 
or a switch to something else.

OTOH, if you choose to stick with kmail and get lucky, it'll go all 
smooth for you and you'll wonder what I was making a big deal of!  In 
fact, if you're already running kdepim 4.6 (not just the rest of kde 
4.6), you've apparently probably already done that upgrade, and since I 
didn't see any posts from you complaining about it (you can check the 
archive for mine), it apparently went far better for you than it did for 
me, and now you're just having a folder creation problem.  If so, count 
yourself lucky indeed, as you got off FAR easier than I did, for sure!

Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
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