A few words about the Quality of KDE 4.2

[John]

It would be interesting to know which distro's do not have what are more or 
less set up problems.

On the bug front suse isn't what it used to be a - rock solid conservative 
release. Don't be miss lead. It hasn't been since the novel take over. As a 
user I'm not very happy about that as it's left a big hole in the distro's 
that might be filled by debian stable. Not sure I haven't looked for a while.

As to kde I'm left wondering what's going on. If the team want users they must 
provide reliable software rather than change at some point but when? It would 
be interesting to know what's happening on the payed for distro's. Maybe kde 
is being gnomed largely due to the uptake if ubuntu I would suspect. Me I'm 
not a totally noddy ex windows user. I don't like the restrictions in gnome 
and like the limited freedom in kde but don't really want to get too involved 
with bash and the kernel. There must be many users who are just like me.

When can I upgrade to a useable reasonably fault free kde? With god knows how 
many bytes kicking about on my machine upgrading isn't a trivial task for me. 
Last time I lost my address book - I did manage to import the mails I wanted 
to keep. Ok I can make sure the path to my home is the same on a new 
installation and that the password is the same but there will still be 
problems and for all I know I might loose the lot.

John

On Monday 16 March 2009 16:30:44 Samuel Kage wrote:
> Currently I'm running KDE 4.2.1 on Opensuse, which is known for making one
> of the best KDE packages.
> Even though I'm really sad about the stability of KDE these days. For
> explaining why, i want to describe a common use case for me an many many
> other users.
>
> The first thing I notice, after booting up, is the quicklauncher-bug which
> makes a very often-used part of the desktop nearly unusable because you
> cant see the small icons.
> Next thing is checking my E-mails and the calendar... The week view in
> Korganizer is gone (I know its just hidden. But for any normal user its
> completely broken).
> Then i maybe get a message in kopete. That looks very unsmooth, if your
> panel is aligned to center and not over the whole screen, cause the
> appearing message button in the systray moves all other plasmoids in the
> panel around. Once when it appears and once when it disappears (very
> often).
> Now I want to hear music... When starting Amarok I often get a message: The
> device M-Audio***** (My sound card) is not working. Which means for any
> normal user, who don't know how to fiddle around in systemsettings, that he
> can't hear music in KDE. At least not with his favourite player.
> When I'm done and want to shut down the pc the last thing that always
> happens is a plasma crash these days. (last month it was a Kontact crash)
> which prevents the computer from shutting down. Which is also annoying
> because you often don't notice it before you return to the pc after hours
> or days. (That are just actual and very obvious bugs but there are much
> more small ones)
>
> Overall its partly no smooth experience to use KDE these days and I really
> don't understand why such things happen. I see the point in releasing KDE
> 4.0 so unstable and i don't want to talk about the past. But now we have
> 4.2 and that release is meant for end-users. Furthermore this release is
> feature complete for most of the normal users. So why isn't the focus on
> bug fixing now? KDE 4.2.1 should just be a bug fix release. But for me it
> contains more bugs than 4.2.0. and much of them are really obvious.
> I think we just CAN'T release KDE with so much bugs if it should be taken
> serious. Just stop a second, try to be honest and imagine what would happen
> if MS would release Windows in such a state... You would laugh at them, and
> blame them for releasing such a buggy piece of software.
> Or take the success of Ubuntu. It's mainly because most things just work.
> Overall I think there are things that really need to be changed. The focus
> has to be on bug fixing. And when it can't be done timely, releases have to
> be delayed. What about a real QA Team which has to make sure that there is
> no release before all obvious bugs are squashed?
>
> Please don't get me wrong. I love KDE4. I'm with it since the 4.0 betas.
> It's a damned cool peace of software and has sooo much potential.  And I
> really love to use it because of the very much genial things it offers.
> Kudos to all developers for that.
> The only things to complain about are the bugs.
>
> I try to spread KDE in my family and to my friends. But, tell me, how
> should I explain the many bugs to them? They are no experts so they don't
> need special features! They just want it working. Just like over 90% of the
> normal users, too.
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