Dolphin starts programs with a wrong current directory

Torsten Frey torsten at
Mon Dec 14 21:35:20 GMT 2009

Am Montag, 14. Dezember 2009 09:05:54 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
> On 12/14/2009 05:12 AM, Torsten Frey wrote:
> > Am Montag, 14. Dezember 2009 01:48:56 schrieb Torsten Frey:
> >>> I must admit that I did not expect that behaviour. I would expect that
> >>> the current directory is searched first. If that fails, then the search
> >>> paths should be relevant. But I am not expert anough to decide if
> >>> KDE/dolphin/konqueror are doing wrong, or if my expectations are
> >>> wrong!?
> >>>
> >>> Regards, Torsten
> >>
> >> Hmm, one glass of wine later, I am sure it is a bug. Applications like
> >> amarok, kaffeine or even kate may use the KDE-path-settings, if they
> >> want. But the filemanager(s) should not use these seetings as it is an
> >> unexpected behavior.
> >
> > No bug - wrong expectations. Just tested it with KDE 3.5.9, where also
> > the behavior from konqueror differs from the cli / non-KDE-filemanager
> > (where to search for text/data-files). Steven (and all others) who say to
> > use defined directories and not to assume something are correct.
> > Sorry to all :-(
> And of course that means that one who writes programs for Unix in
> general (and not specific for KDE) must keep KDE in mind nonetheless.
> Since all filemanagers except the KDE ones "agree" with each other on
> this point, that person assumes that this a "de-facto" standard.  KDE
> breaks it.
> No, I'm not going to alter my program just to make KDE happy, because
> I'm not writing a KDE program in the first place.  If KDE can't deal
> with programs written that way in this regard, then I consider this
> being a KDE problem, not my problem.  My program runs happily on Mac OS
> X, Solaris, all BSDs, all Windows versions, and Linux *except* KDE.
>  From that it becomes pretty apparent where the wrong behavior lies.
> When over 20 combinations of OS/DE agree with each other on this,
> *except* KDE...
I found this in the bug-database / search terms: konqueror + path
no bugs found for dolphin + path

Bug 131048
Konqueror should run the application from its own DIR not from home Dir
It is an old "wish" from 2006, that sounds similar to our discussion.

Bug 173796
User Environment Path Settings
I am not a c++-programmer, but they seem to talk about the implemantation of 
the paths in KDE4

It is now the questions whether you / we consider it to be bug.

This  (for you and me) "unexpected" behavior from KDE-filemanagers to 
non-KDE-filemanagers is present since KDE3. But this does not mean, that this 
it is correct because it always behaved like this!? I find no good reason for 
this and so I agree with you that "quality is what the customers expects". In 
this case, I expect that the file I see in front of me should be used first.

If no one can give an example why / when this can be useful, you should make a 
bug report (as I believe you have more knowledge how it should behave exactly 
than I have, I only "feel" there might be something wrong)
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