Dolphin starts programs with a wrong current directory

[Torsten Frey]

Am Montag, 14. Dezember 2009 09:05:54 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras:
> On 12/14/2009 05:12 AM, Torsten Frey wrote:
> > Am Montag, 14. Dezember 2009 01:48:56 schrieb Torsten Frey:
> >>> I must admit that I did not expect that behaviour. I would expect that
> >>> the current directory is searched first. If that fails, then the search
> >>> paths should be relevant. But I am not expert anough to decide if
> >>> KDE/dolphin/konqueror are doing wrong, or if my expectations are
> >>> wrong!?
> >>>
> >>> Regards, Torsten
> >>
> >> Hmm, one glass of wine later, I am sure it is a bug. Applications like
> >> amarok, kaffeine or even kate may use the KDE-path-settings, if they
> >> want. But the filemanager(s) should not use these seetings as it is an
> >> unexpected behavior.
> >
> > No bug - wrong expectations. Just tested it with KDE 3.5.9, where also
> > the behavior from konqueror differs from the cli / non-KDE-filemanager
> > (where to search for text/data-files). Steven (and all others) who say to
> > use defined directories and not to assume something are correct.
> > Sorry to all :-(
>
> And of course that means that one who writes programs for Unix in
> general (and not specific for KDE) must keep KDE in mind nonetheless.
> Since all filemanagers except the KDE ones "agree" with each other on
> this point, that person assumes that this a "de-facto" standard.  KDE
> breaks it.
>
> No, I'm not going to alter my program just to make KDE happy, because
> I'm not writing a KDE program in the first place.  If KDE can't deal
> with programs written that way in this regard, then I consider this
> being a KDE problem, not my problem.  My program runs happily on Mac OS
> X, Solaris, all BSDs, all Windows versions, and Linux *except* KDE.
>  From that it becomes pretty apparent where the wrong behavior lies.
> When over 20 combinations of OS/DE agree with each other on this,
> *except* KDE...
>
I found this in the bug-database / search terms: konqueror + path
no bugs found for dolphin + path

Bug 131048
Konqueror should run the application from its own DIR not from home Dir
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131048
It is an old "wish" from 2006, that sounds similar to our discussion.

Bug 173796
User Environment Path Settings 
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173796
I am not a c++-programmer, but they seem to talk about the implemantation of 
the paths in KDE4

It is now the questions whether you / we consider it to be bug.

This  (for you and me) "unexpected" behavior from KDE-filemanagers to 
non-KDE-filemanagers is present since KDE3. But this does not mean, that this 
it is correct because it always behaved like this!? I find no good reason for 
this and so I agree with you that "quality is what the customers expects". In 
this case, I expect that the file I see in front of me should be used first.

If no one can give an example why / when this can be useful, you should make a 
bug report (as I believe you have more knowledge how it should behave exactly 
than I have, I only "feel" there might be something wrong)
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