Why KDE4 is called KDE?
Thierry de Coulon
tcoulon at decoulon.ch
Tue Dec 8 15:47:51 GMT 2009
On Tuesday 08 December 2009, Kevin Krammer wrote:
> I am not sure if this "you didn't not pay for it" ever comes from a
> contributor even less a developer.
It came from Anne Wilson
> What I've seen though is people saying that their priorities are working on
> the concepts they think will give the best possible result. I've so far
> never experienced an exchange where developers said that they will actively
> block any work in any other direction.
I never said I think they would. I'm sure they are very nice people even if
they did not do what I wish until now.
> Hmm, when I switched earlier this year (around April IIRC), I've only found
> parts of the workspace to be different, mainly desktop and panel.
> Everything else, including other parts of the workspace like the window
> manager, seemed to be just differently styled (though I could have switched
> back to Plastique if I would have wanted to).
> What are the applications and features that have changed for other people?
My showstopper is the mounting policy. As of now, there are two problems:
a) mounting/unmounting devices requires using Dolphin. FolderView icons are
possible but they don't work (users can't mount anything), so they are
useless. Seems to be a bug in a library, so "there is a bug for that", but it
does not help me if it's not squashed.
b) the same applies for nfs shares but that blocks all my work. I regularely
use shares that are on a "server" that is not always on. So I can't mount the
shares at boot, and I can't mount them later either (well, I can at the
command line of course).
There are lots of othert anoyments, icons too big, clumsy panel, not yet
working apps and fear that they brake my e-mail on the next release. All this
1) I stick to KDE 3 as long as possible
2) I am getting nervous when I see that KDE 4 is _still_ not ready for
everyday use (I was told it would be with 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 ......)
3) I am still reading this list with the hope to discover, one day, that I can
replace 3.5 by 4.x ............
> > Of course this is a caricature, but it is sort of how I feel the KDE devs
> > are "represented" on this list.
> Yes, could be, but a lot of the over generalization happend due to not
> being able to address certain KDE products separately, so people
> complaining about one such product would do that in a form that leads to
> misinterpretation and thus actually unrelated reactions.
Good point. Seems to me that most "rants" fall in one of two categories:
- app flaws / bugs / unstability
- KDE 4 Desktop is not (doing what) KDE 3 Desktop (was doing)
I am most concerned by the second (actually I can use KDE 4 apps from the KDE
3 Desktop for the time) so perhaps we should establish a separate ranting
ground for KDE 4 Desktop unsatisfied?
> I am confident that this will improve a lot over the next couple of months
> when it will become easier for discussion participants to see which product
> is actually discussed.
Being optimistic and KDE lover I want to believe too :)
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