Installing kde from scratch

[John]

I haven't looked to see if it's possible but I wondered if one of the bootable 
cd/dvds could be used to install source to a hard drive. I suspect that 
knopix might be the best bet.

My basic idea was to install dual boot, a kernel,shell etc and so on up to 
KDE. Once I have that other things aren't a problem. I find that the suse 
distro for instance often doesn't have what I want on it. For me the best 
source repository is google etc -> sourceforge or the authors web page. The 
problem for me is that I would need some concise help about options and 
installation - not the usual verbose stuff that's about which is why I asked 
about web links.

It's a pity KDE doesn't do it's own un supported distro. That would be 
wonderful. Just KDE's normal apps and nothing else except maybe cups. 2 such 
installations on a machine would leave something to go back to if things got 
messed up or the latest KDE proved unsuitable for a while until its sorted 
out. Developers might find it useful as a test bench standard too. It could 
even make upwards migration easier. If any one is tempted I would hope they 
would also add the facilities for dual booting an existing windoze partitions 
though. Unfortunately I have to use it from time to time and have a feeling 
from the specs that a vm will cripple my cpu.

John

On Wednesday 30 January 2008 01:23, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> John wrote:
> >>From time to time I've seen the comment on here that to get the most from
> >
> > linux it's best to install from scratch - kernel and then on up.
> >
> > As I'm about to go for a complete machine rebuild I'm tempted to try it
> > but haven't had much luck finding a decent web page with complete
> > instructions. One of my main concerns are lib files as distro's take a
> > lot of the sweat out of that. Anyone know of one. Or have a better
> > suggestion.
> >
> > Failing that I'm also wondering which distro uses the most vanilla and up
> > to date set up and above all else updates with most ease. Suse likes to
> > just ignore what was there and the update that are provided often cripple
> > what ever is there.
>
> The current situation isn't very good.  The major commercial distros
> aren't really GNU/Linux, but rather, OSes based on GNU/Linux.
>
> Fedora was OK except that PAM was mandatory until they decided that they
> would use SecureLinux.  This seems to be an unsolvable problem since
> features such as PAM and SecureLinux can not be made as optional
> features.  This means that there is no such thing as a "vanilla" distro.
>
> IAC, the best way to do this is to do it backwards.  Start with a distro
> for the base and build stuff from source and working your way down from
> the top.  But, that just begs the question since you are still looking
> for a "vanilla" distro.
>
> So, although I do have a system that is basically scratch -- I still
> have some Fedora RPMs (I started with version 1) but find that I had to
> stop upgrading the RPMs with version 5 +/- and have had to replace them
> with built from source except for the startup code and application
> packages.
>
> You can try Linux From Scratch, but it is a lot of work.  If that looks
> like too much for you, I would try Gentoo Linux and after you are
> comfortable with that, you can try LFS.
>
> It would be very helpful if there was a base distro -- just enough to
> boot and run an FTP client as a way to start, since building from
> scratch means that you need to solve the bootstrap problem -- LFS shows
> how to solve this, but you need to have something installed first to
> build from scratch.

-- 
Regards
John

Suse 10.0
KDE 3.4.2 B
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