KNotify = Rediculous

Tue Dec 20 21:30:14 GMT 2005

Afraid I'm very much a regular joe on this subject. Seems that I aught to be 
having the same problem but I'm not. I'm using arts, open sound and have 
allways set up the notifications graphically for each user. I know no better 
and avoid knowing any better when ever possible.
This is on suse9.0 with kde 3.1.4 with one or two libs updated that shouldn't 
be - according to suse.
Regards
John

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 02:45, Ryan wrote:
> Test.  (Forgot to add this list to Text only, and my previous reply was
> in html)
>
> Ryan wrote:
> > Hmm, maybe I wasnt clear enough?  The point I was making was that the
> > sound center WORKED, but the system notifications did NOT.  If you go
> > to the sound center in the KDE control panel, and clicked on Test, it
> > would work.  But if you tried ANY System Notification sound, it would
> > NOT work in the scenerio I mentioned.  This is an extremly common
> > problem, and I am having a hard time believing that the KDE team just
> > doesnt know about this.  I've never met a single person that has NOT
> > had this problem.  Unless of coarse they come from a mailing list
> > where there really arent all that many "regular joes".
> >
> > John wrote:
> >>Hi
> >>Not sure what you are trying to do but my mail notification has worked
> >> for years. I turned others off as they irritated me. Only lost sound
> >> when I did a partial lib upgrade. Not a knotify problem. I had to enable
> >> the open sound system. No idea why.
> >>I don't know much about the subject but the graphical way of setting it
> >> up is via KDE's control centre, sound and multimedia, system
> >> notifications. Many things can be done on a user basis by any user so
> >> root ownership etc makes no sense at all.
> >>This suggests that all controls are kept on a user basis so the system
> >> might be writing what ever that is each time it runs.
> >>
> >>Regards
> >>John
> >>
> >>On Tuesday 20 December 2005 19:00, Ryan wrote:
> >>>I have this problem with KNotify with ANY distro that I install with any
> >>>version of KDE.  KNotify ALWAYS DISABLES ITSELF.  It's really been
> >>>pissin me off the last few days because it's been turning my own
> >>>~/.kde/share/knotifyrc file off even when the sound system ISNT crashed
> >>>or down.  The only way to stop it is to chown the file to root, or
> >>>change the permisions to be read only, but that is WRONG I dont care who
> >>>says it's the "correct" way to fix it, it just plain shouldnt be turning
> >>>things false without at least ASKING you to let it change to false.
> >>>This has really been a nightmare for anyone that I've ever tried to get
> >>>to use Linux because every single day (it never fails, it always
> >>>happens), they call me and ask how to get sound running because it just
> >>>suddenly stopped working.  Every time it's always the KnotifyRC that is
> >>>the problem and I've just about had it myself.
> >>>
> >>>My question, is there ANY possible way to stop this from happening other
> >>>than changing the permissions of the file.  Here's an example of what I
> >>>did to test it today on my own machine.
> >>>
> >>>I woke up this mornin, starting messing with some stuff in Konsole and
> >>>noticed the damn beeps were off yet AGAIN.  So as usual, I opened the
> >>>knotifyrc file and changed:
> >>>
> >>>[StartProgress]
> >>>Arts Init=false
> >>>KNotify Init=true
> >>>Use Arts=false
> >>>
> >>>to
> >>>
> >>>[StartProgress]
> >>>Arts Init=true
> >>>KNotify Init=true
> >>>Use Arts=true
> >>>
> >>>I then tested the sound in Konsole, and sure enough, there was none.
> >>>So, what do I do?  Open knotify AGAIN and low and behold, its set to
> >>>false!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  So, I set it again thinking maybe I didnt
> >>>save the file.  Repeat, and whatya know, its False again!.  So this
> >>>time, I get pissed and chown it to root, use root to change the file,
> >>>test the sound again, and guess what happens.  I get this window from
> >>>KNotify saying that it cant write to the knotifyrc file.  So I say to
> >>>myself GOOD YOU LOUSY NO GOOD PIECE OF *****, you shouldnt be writting
> >>>to it!  Then, right after I close that window, I HEARD THE KONSOLE
> >>>SYSTEM NOTIFICATION SOUND!!  I'm like OMG
> >>>WTF$%^*@#*$%^&*^#$%%^#@!T$%&^T&^%&
> >>>
> >>>Now, why in the world is Knotify turning its self off when I just proved
> >>>to it that that sound WAS on?  Is there a bug about this anywhere on the
> >>>KDE site?  Because if there isnt, there should be.  It's been like this
> >>>for me from version 3.0 to 3.5 and it's never once been fixed in KDE.
> >>>Is it just me and my clients, or does everyone else have this problem?
> >>>And DO NOT tell me that the fix for it is to just change the
> >>>permissions, that's the stupidest response ever.  If you do that, then
> >>>every time you login to KDE, you'll be greeted with an error window, and
> >>>when you are one of my clients, you dont like error windows because they
> >>>are scary.  There has to be an option somewhere where you can set it to
> >>>NOT write to the file at all, or at least tell you that its going to do
> >>>so and give you a chance to tell it that it's full of **** and doesnt
> >>>know what its doing, and give you the chance to skip the write process.
> >>>
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