getting involved

[Ingo Klöcker]

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Poletti, Don wrote:
>>Poletti, Don wrote:
>>> What approach should I take? It seems that changing such a visible
>>> UI component should have some consensus? I don't want to spend the
>>> effort making the changes just to have them never incorporated.
>>> However it seems that in most open source project until you code a
>>> change you your opinions are not take seriously.
>>
>>Development issues are discussed on kde-devel at kde.org and usability
>>issues are discussed on kde-usability at kde.org. You should subscribe to
>>these lists and send your suggestions/questions there.
>>
> Actually I just gave one example. There are other issues as well, Are
> you saying I should adress any particular issue to a more specific
> e-mail list?

Yes. kde at kde.org is "for KDE users with questions strictly about KDE" 
and not for development or usability questions. I guess most developers 
don't read kde at kde.org. Therefore you won't get useful answers here.

> It wasn't clear from the web site if kde-devel or kde-core-devel
> is better. I suspect I want kde-core-devel but the web site says
> the list is read-only. I suspect just asking for write permission
> would be turned down.

You can always send messages to kde-core-devel. Read-only only means 
that messages from people who don't have write permission will have to 
pass the moderator.
But please not that kde-core-devel is "for developers. The discussions 
on this list are limited at KDE libraries development, CVS and other 
central development issues."
This means that your question about desktop background configuration 
doesn't really belong there.

> The question is realy what comes first the requirements (change
> suggestions from users or otherwise) or code changes. According to all
> software classes and I concur the requirements come first. However my
> expierence in the open source community is the code has to come first.
> So should I go to the dev list or the usablility list first.

I'd say you should go to the usability list first. You don't need to 
present any code there. In fact it would be better to first have a 
discussion there about how to make the configuration easier and then 
starting to code. You should probably also have a look at 
usability.kde.org if you want to help making KDE easier to use.

Regards,
Ingo

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