WOW. . .those screenshots of 3.1Alpha are fantastic

Mary Stamper mstamper77 at
Fri Jul 12 16:54:50 BST 2002

Is this perhaps one of the weaknesses of the KDE project? or of free software in general? Folks
work on what they want to instead of worrying about what is needed to stay in business. As an
employee of a company that sells services for  money, we have to work on what the users need, not
always on what we think is most cool or most fun. Is this discipline perhaps lacking when there is
no money to be made?

--- Derek Fountain <fountai at> wrote:
> On Friday 12 July 2002 2:59 pm, Frank Reifenstahl wrote:
> > AFAIC, too, that's the point. I just read the KDE 3.1 announcement - it
> > gave me the creeps. Leaving ground to visit rainbows, what the hack are
> > they doing? A GUI and its desktop should support me WORKING. I don't want a
> > kaleidoscopic toy, don't want to get dizzy watching transparent wallpapers
> > through transparent buttons through transparent popup windows. I have great
> > respect for everyone working at KDE, but listen, I am in dire need for
> > STABLE browsers and mail progs.
> This used to be discussed a bit on the development lists but hasn't been for 
> some time now. The fact is that KDE developers don't have the discipline to 
> focus purely on stability. As soon as a release is made, the new development 
> tree is opened. The bug reports which the new users of the "stable" system 
> supply tend to fall on completely distracted ears.
> I remember, oh, must be a couple of years ago, I posted a request to 
> kde-devel that the new development tree is left closed for a period after a 
> stable release so bug reports in the stable system get complete and rapid 
> attention. I just got flamed. My suggestion is how Linus works with the 
> development of Linux - sometimes he doesn't open the new development release 
> for months, until he's sure the stable tree is really stable. That's why 
> Linux is stable and KDE isn't, and, in fact can never be really stable.
> Don't waste your breath asking KDE developers to concentrate on stability. 
> It's not what they want to do, and as we've seen in recent threads, they are 
> only really interested in doing what they want to do.
> Given the way things are, KDE users can assist by getting the alphas and 
> betas and testing them, and reporting bugs while developers are still focused 
> on getting the code right. Waiting until a "stable" KDE release is made is 
> too late.
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