Donations
Ricardo Morayta
ricardogetshismails at gmail.com
Tue Dec 24 16:05:48 GMT 2024
Im officially schooled
Thank you for the time you took to do it,
Only way to grow is together
You got my 50€ yearly
I used nobora with kde plasma and I LOVE IT
THANK YOU for that too i guess
Merry Christmas y'all
On Tue, 24 Dec 2024, 04:37 Jumpei Ogawa, <phanective at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, I found a sentence in broken English in my last message.
>
> > but he might think that the KDE team does not want to use KDE without
> donations in my young days.
>
> but he might think that the KDE team does not want to use KDE without
> donations *like me* in my young days.
>
> On Tue, Dec 24, 2024, 10:24 Jumpei Ogawa <phanective at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> >> now i'm afraid to keep using KDE,
>> > Oh no! Why?
>>
>> While Ricardo's message sounds a bit mad, I slightly understand his
>> feelings.
>>
>> When I was young, I avoided using free (== at no cost) software on the
>> Internet if the authors strongly asked for donations.
>> I feel it sounds like the authors do not want us to use their software
>> without donations. I thought it was unethical to keep using the software
>> without donating.
>>
>> Now I got old and overbold, so I don't care about using free things on
>> the Internet, including KDE software, without donations so much recently ―
>> but I'm still feeling a bit ashamed for writing that.
>>
>> I guess Ricardo is not ashamed or feeling guilty for using KDE software
>> without donations, but he might think that the KDE team does not want to
>> use KDE without donations in my young days.
>>
>> It would be nice for people like us if you clarified that we can still
>> use KDE software for free (at no cost) even if you don't donate in the
>> donation messages.
>> However, it might reduce the donations, so I respect your decision even
>> if you don't do so.
>>
>> Jumpei
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 24, 2024 at 8:26 AM Paul Brown <paul.brown at kde.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Ricardo,
>>>
>>> > What is this asking for donations?
>>>
>>> As a non-profit charity, we are not in the business of selling products
>>> or
>>> services. We give our stuff away for free. We also do not want to rely
>>> on big
>>> tech corporations for funding, as that would put us in their debt, a
>>> position
>>> we would prefer not to be in.
>>>
>>> Therefore, funding our operations via user donations is one of the only
>>> resources we have. We like to think the KDE is (funded) by the people,
>>> for the
>>> people 🙂.
>>>
>>> > now i'm afraid to keep using KDE,
>>>
>>> Oh no! Why?
>>>
>>> > i think nme like 90% of linux users don't use windows because of our
>>> wish
>>> > to not support money grabbing/powersick apes,
>>>
>>> We actually like apes. Not so money-grabbing/powersick techbros. Way
>>> worse
>>> than apes, I assure you.
>>>
>>> > Now you're telling me you don't do this because you want to?
>>>
>>> Oh, yes. We do it because we want to. Unfortunately doing what we want
>>> often
>>> costs money too. If we organise an event, say, in Germany, and we want
>>> to fly
>>> one of our contributors in from Vietnam, and that contributor does not
>>> have
>>> much money, we want to help them arrange their visa, get a ticket, have
>>> somewhere to sleep, and food to eat when they get here. All that costs
>>> money.
>>>
>>> If we want to allow people from all over the world to download our
>>> software to
>>> enjoy (for free), we have to have space where we can set up or
>>> repositories,
>>> servers available 24/7, Internet connections, and so on. All That costs
>>> money.
>>>
>>> If we want to help people discover our software and stop being exploted
>>> and
>>> abused by proprietary software producers, we need to take our stuff to
>>> them, to
>>> their congresses, we need to rent booths, pay for tickets, travel
>>> expenses and
>>> accommodation (again!), hire equipment to display things properly, print
>>> stickers... All that costs money.
>>>
>>> If a developers need a break from their day jobs to spend time on their
>>> free
>>> projects because users are demanding a new feature or they need to
>>> stabilise
>>> the code, they (and often their faimilies) will need to eat and live
>>> during
>>> the months they are working on that. All that costs money.
>>>
>>> > if so, then don't do it, get a job at Apple or Microsoft
>>>
>>> Oh! Most our contributors have second jobs, I assure you. And thanks to
>>> that
>>> you are enjoying our software for free. But, as implied above, creating
>>> and
>>> distributing free software is much more expensive than you are imagining.
>>>
>>> > and forget you had
>>> > a role in helping human freedom become a reality
>>> > you want money go do something else ,
>>>
>>> The money ensures the survival of the project. If we did not look for
>>> funding
>>> one year, I can assure that the next there would be no more KDE for
>>> anybody.
>>>
>>> We wish we did not have to pay salaries to contractors, for an office
>>> space, for
>>> travelling, for equipment to test our software on, or lawyers and
>>> accountants
>>> to keep us safe, for servers and Internet connections, et cetera, et
>>> cetera.
>>> We wish all these things weere given to us for free. Unfortunately that
>>> is not
>>> the reality we live in.
>>>
>>> > very simple
>>> > wanna help humanity get rid of sick apes, then i REALLY trhank you for
>>> > youtr time and effort, and if you ever need help (free help) ill be
>>> VERY
>>> > happy to assist in anytrhing i vcan witrh ALL my free time for you,
>>> > I ma 3d artist and know a thing or 2 about python so just give us a
>>> shout,
>>> > but PLEASE dont fuck up what you worked on so far, the line is VERY
>>> thin
>>>
>>> That is a very generous offer! Please take a look at
>>>
>>> https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved
>>>
>>> It will help you get an idea of how and where to start.
>>>
>>> Have a nice winter holiday!
>>>
>>> Kindest Regards
>>>
>>> Paul
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>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Jumpei Ogawa (小川 純平)
>>
>
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