kopete website

Tue Oct 28 12:00:31 UTC 2014

Now I looked at kopete svn repo again 
http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/kopete/

And now I see that chatwindowstyleguide and 
pipesimplementationguide are already in kopete git.

What we are missing is emoticons/ guide, files/, and protocol/.

I tried to add emoticons guide into kopete/doc/ but it does not 
compile. It show error:

emoticonspec.docbook:1: parser error : StartTag: invalid element 
name
<!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN"

On Friday 24 October 2014 07:47:50 Jeremy Whiting wrote:
> Pali,
> 
> I believe you just need to add it to kopete's git repo and add
> a line to the CMakeLists.txt to generate the docbook like it
> does the kopete one. I could be wrong though.
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Ben Cooksley 
<bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Pali Rohár 
<pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Adding it to git sounds like good idea, but I do not know
> >> where to add it and how (auto) generation to html is
> >> working...
> > 
> > For docs.kde.org?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Ben
> > 
> >> On Thursday 23 October 2014 02:47:56 Jeremy Whiting wrote:
> >>> Pali,
> >>> 
> >>> Do we want the emoticons.docbook in kopete source git repo
> >>> maybe? If so would you add it there and see if it
> >>> generates into html ok etc.?
> >>> 
> >>> thanks,
> >>> Jeremy
> >>> 
> >>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Pali Rohár
> >> 
> >> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > On Thursday 23 October 2014 00:17:11 Jeremy Whiting 
wrote:
> >>> >> Pali,
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Pali Rohár
> >>> > 
> >>> > <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> > On Wednesday 22 October 2014 23:44:41 Jeremy Whiting
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >> Pali,
> >>> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> Here's my plan,
> >>> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> 1. I'll coordinate with ben about placing the sound
> >>> >> >> files, and these two kopetemessage.xsd and
> >>> >> >> oscarversions.xml on either files.kde.org or
> >>> >> >> download.kde.org.
> >>> >> >> 2. Then I'll ask sysadmin to make apache rewrites
> >>> >> >> from the old urls to the new ones.
> >>> >> >> 3. Then I'll add the faqs from the website to the
> >>> >> >> .docbook faq section in kopete's sources.
> >>> >> >> 4. Then ask sysadmin to make kopete.kde.org an
> >>> >> >> apache rewrite to the userbase page.
> >>> >> >> 5. Then finally remove kopete content from svn.
> >>> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> Sound like a good plan? Did I miss any steps?
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > Sounds good. Then please document somewhere how to
> >>> >> > update oscarversions.xml file in future.
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > Anyway in svn is another stuff and I have no idea if
> >>> >> > is somewhere else...
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > * chatwindowstyleguide
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> I think this is here
> >>> >> https://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/kopete/chatwi
> >>> >> ndow sty leguide.html no ?
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> > * emoticons docbook
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> I don't see that on the website, where are you seeing
> >>> >> that?
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> > * jabber extensions in protocols
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> Is this
> >>> >> https://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/kopete/jabber
> >>> >> -plu gi ns.html what you mean?
> >>> > 
> >>> > All folders are in svn:
> >>> > http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/kopete/
> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> BR,
> >>> >> >> Jeremy
> >>> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Ben Cooksley
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > <bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:
> >>> >> >> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Pali Rohár
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> Hello,
> >>> >> >> > 
> >>> >> >> > Hi Pali,
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > Hello, why I did not received this email??
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> I guess Ben forgot to cc you on that one.
> >>> > 
> >>> > Ah, ok. I'm not in kde-www list, so CC me.
> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> >> first one important thing:
> >>> >> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> >> kopete icq/aim protocol is downloading this file
> >>> >> >> >> at kopete startup:
> >>> >> >> >> http://kopete.kde.org/oscarversions.xml
> >>> >> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> >> That file contains version information needed for
> >>> >> >> >> icq client to successfully authenticate with icq
> >>> >> >> >> server. All these data are also in icq source
> >>> >> >> >> code. But in past those data was changed and
> >>> >> >> >> downloading data from kopete.kde.org cause that
> >>> >> >> >> older kopete versions was able to connect again.
> >>> >> >> >> Data from website override hardcoded data in
> >>> >> >> >> kopete source code.
> >>> >> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> >> And I updated data from website to icq source
> >>> >> >> >> code only for v4.14 release. So if you cut down
> >>> >> >> >> that url all kopete versions before v4.14 stop
> >>> >> >> >> working.
> >>> >> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> >> So after updating kopete.kde.org website, please
> >>> >> >> >> make sure that above url will still work and
> >>> >> >> >> please write me how to change that file in
> >>> >> >> >> future (so when something will be broken I can
> >>> >> >> >> update it).
> >>> >> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> >> File is downloaded with KIO::get(url) so if you
> >>> >> >> >> are going to do some magic (redirect/etc) please
> >>> >> >> >> make sure that it will not be broken.
> >>> >> >> > 
> >>> >> >> > KIO is intelligent enough to handle redirects - we
> >>> >> >> > enabled mandatory SSL for kopete.kde.org a while
> >>> >> >> > back, and based on your commentary here the file
> >>> >> >> > is still being retrieved without problems.
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > Ok. Test case for Kopete is:
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > 1) install older version of Kopete (e.g. 4.13)
> >>> >> > 2) clean user ~/.kde directory (so kopete config file
> >>> >> > with cached info from oscarversions.xml will not be
> >>> >> > available) 3) try to login into ICQ and AIM account
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> Ok, once the redirects are in place I'll e-mail you and
> >>> >> you can test. I don't have any icq or aim accounts
> >>> >> myself.
> >>> > 
> >>> > Ok. I can test ICQ account.
> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> >> In kopete source code I see reference to another
> >>> >> >> >> file:
> >>> >> >> >> http://kopete.kde.org/files/kopetemessage.xsd
> >>> >> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> >> But I do not have idea how that file is used.
> >>> >> >> > 
> >>> >> >> > Likely used to validate the format of the XML data
> >>> >> >> > which Kopete uses at some point. Perhaps this is
> >>> >> >> > how it stores conversations on disk?
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > "This is the XSD schema of a Kopete message in XML
> >>> >> > form. This is both the format that the XSL
> >>> >> > stylesheets will expect, as well as the format that
> >>> >> > results from saving the chatwindow contents."
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > "This is *not* the same as the format of the history
> >>> >> > plugin."
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> >> >> Next, I did nothing with docbook. Basically I do
> >>> >> >> >> not have time for updating all those user guide
> >>> >> >> >> books, etc and also I'm not very interesting in
> >>> >> >> >> writing such text.
> >>> >> >> > 
> >>> >> >> > Thanks,
> >>> >> >> > Ben
> >>> >> >> > 
> >>> >> >> >> On Wednesday 15 October 2014 00:09:13 Jeremy
> >>> >> >> >> Whiting
> >>> > 
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> Pali,
> >>> >> >> >>> 
> >>> >> >> >>> Have you ever done anything with the kopete
> >>> >> >> >>> docbook ? If so would you mind adding the faqs
> >>> >> >> >>> from https://kopete.kde.org/faq.php to it? I've
> >>> >> >> >>> added links to the userbase page pointing to
> >>> >> >> >>> the docbook copy of the pipes and chat style
> >>> >> >> >>> guides on
> >>> >> >> >>> https://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdenetwork/
> >>> >> >> >>> kopet e/c hat wind owstyleguide.html so those
> >>> >> >> >>> should be taken care of. I also added a link to
> >>> >> >> >>> KDETalk below those on userbase. I'll ask about
> >>> >> >> >>> where to put the sound files for the
> >>> >> >> >>> pronunciation of kopete in english and spanish
> >>> >> >> >>> from the kopete.kde.org site.
> >>> >> >> >>> 
> >>> >> >> >>> thanks,
> >>> >> >> >>> Jeremy
> >>> >> >> >>> 
> >>> >> >> >>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Jeremy Whiting
> >>> >> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> >> <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> > Exactly.
> >>> >> >> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> >>> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Pali Rohár
> >>> >> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> >> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> >> Sounds good. Also editing userbase wiki page
> >>> >> >> >>> >> should be simpler then editing something in
> >>> >> >> >>> >> svn...
> >>> >> >> >>> >> 
> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Tuesday 14 October 2014 23:31:56 Jeremy
> >>> >> >> >>> >> Whiting
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> Pali,
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> Thanks for the information on what's useful
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> in the existing site. I can do like we did
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> for dolphin.kde.org. I'll first move the
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> important content from those three pages
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> you pointed out into userbase, then ask
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> kopete.kde.org to be a rewrite to userbase
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> kopete page. then remove this old content
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> from svn completely. Does that sound like a
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> good idea? I especially like the idea of
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> userbase because the content can be easily
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> translated by end-user's into their own
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> language.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> BR,
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> Jeremy
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Pali Rohár
> >>> >> >> >>> >> 
> >>> >> >> >>> >> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > On Tuesday 14 October 2014 23:07:04 you 
wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Pali,
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Long time no see. How's it going? I see
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> you've been fixing bugs and such in
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> kopete lately and thought I'd shoot you
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> an e-mail. I've been cleaning up svn
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> websites folder migrating sites to git
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> repos and such and kopete is one of the
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> remaining few sites there.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> and it's also terribly out of date. I
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> wondered which of these options you'd
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> prefer:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> 1. Close kopete.kde.org completely
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> (user's can still find information about
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> it from the userbase and www.kde.org
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> application pages) 2. Keep
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> kopete.kde.org and redirect it to the
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> kopete userbase page or www.kde.org
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> kopete application page.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> 3. Migrate kopete web content to git and
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> update it to reflect kopete current
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> status etc.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> I can help with any of these but wanted
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> to ask which you prefer. I wont be
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> updating the site content itself in
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> anyway, you can do that or find someone
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> else to do it, but I can do the
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> migration. Let me know what you think.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> BR,
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> Jeremy
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > Hello,
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > I have never touched kopete website
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > because I did not know how and also I did
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > not have time for it. Even I did not know
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > what website is in svn...
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > In last years I fixed lot of bugs in
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > kopete and implemented some new options.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > You can see in kopete git that I
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > regularly pushing changes. But I really
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > do not have time for maintaining web site
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > or something similar.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > So I think the best would be to keep
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > kopete.kde.org DNS record and redirect
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > webpage to userbase.
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > I think there are 3 important things on
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > kopete.kde.org webpage:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > 1) Pipes Plugin guide:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > https://kopete.kde.org/pipesimplementation
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > guid e/i nde x.ht ml
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > 2) Chat window style guide:
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > https://kopete.kde.org/chatwindowstyleguid
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > e/in dex .ht ml
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > 3) Info about existence of KDE XMPP
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > server: https://kdetalk.net/
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > I do not know if these two guides are
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > somewhere else so this could be backup (or
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > link from userbase?).
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > 
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > --
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > Pali Rohár
> >>> >> >> >>> >>> > pali.rohar at gmail.com
> >>> >> >> >>> >> 
> >>> >> >> >>> >> --
> >>> >> >> >>> >> Pali Rohár
> >>> >> >> >>> >> pali.rohar at gmail.com
> >>> >> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> >> --
> >>> >> >> >> Pali Rohár
> >>> >> >> >> pali.rohar at gmail.com
> >>> >> >> >> 
> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >>> >> >> >> kde-www mailing list
> >>> >> >> >> kde-www at kde.org
> >>> >> >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-www
> >>> >> > 
> >>> >> > --
> >>> >> > Pali Rohár
> >>> >> > pali.rohar at gmail.com
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> BR,
> >>> >> Jeremy
> >>> > 
> >>> > --
> >>> > Pali Rohár
> >>> > pali.rohar at gmail.com
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Pali Rohár
> >> pali.rohar at gmail.com

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar at gmail.com
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