kopete website

Wed Oct 22 22:17:11 UTC 2014

Pali,

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Pali Rohár <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 October 2014 23:44:41 Jeremy Whiting wrote:
>> Pali,
>>
>> Here's my plan,
>>
>> 1. I'll coordinate with ben about placing the sound files, and
>> these two kopetemessage.xsd and oscarversions.xml on either
>> files.kde.org or download.kde.org.
>> 2. Then I'll ask sysadmin to make apache rewrites from the old
>> urls to the new ones.
>> 3. Then I'll add the faqs from the website to the .docbook faq
>> section in kopete's sources.
>> 4. Then ask sysadmin to make kopete.kde.org an apache rewrite
>> to the userbase page.
>> 5. Then finally remove kopete content from svn.
>>
>> Sound like a good plan? Did I miss any steps?
>>
>
> Sounds good. Then please document somewhere how to update
> oscarversions.xml file in future.
>
> Anyway in svn is another stuff and I have no idea if is somewhere
> else...
>
> * chatwindowstyleguide

I think this is here
https://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/kopete/chatwindowstyleguide.html
no ?

> * emoticons docbook
I don't see that on the website, where are you seeing that?

> * jabber extensions in protocols
Is this https://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/kopete/jabber-plugins.html
what you mean?

>
>> BR,
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Ben Cooksley
> <bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Pali Rohár
> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >
>> > Hi Pali,
>> >
>
> Hello, why I did not received this email??

I guess Ben forgot to cc you on that one.
>
>> >> first one important thing:
>> >>
>> >> kopete icq/aim protocol is downloading this file at kopete
>> >> startup: http://kopete.kde.org/oscarversions.xml
>> >>
>> >> That file contains version information needed for icq
>> >> client to successfully authenticate with icq server. All
>> >> these data are also in icq source code. But in past those
>> >> data was changed and downloading data from kopete.kde.org
>> >> cause that older kopete versions was able to connect
>> >> again. Data from website override hardcoded data in kopete
>> >> source code.
>> >>
>> >> And I updated data from website to icq source code only for
>> >> v4.14 release. So if you cut down that url all kopete
>> >> versions before v4.14 stop working.
>> >>
>> >> So after updating kopete.kde.org website, please make sure
>> >> that above url will still work and please write me how to
>> >> change that file in future (so when something will be
>> >> broken I can update it).
>> >>
>> >> File is downloaded with KIO::get(url) so if you are going
>> >> to do some magic (redirect/etc) please make sure that it
>> >> will not be broken.
>> >
>> > KIO is intelligent enough to handle redirects - we enabled
>> > mandatory SSL for kopete.kde.org a while back, and based on
>> > your commentary here the file is still being retrieved
>> > without problems.
>> >
>
> Ok. Test case for Kopete is:
>
> 1) install older version of Kopete (e.g. 4.13)
> 2) clean user ~/.kde directory (so kopete config file with cached
> info from oscarversions.xml will not be available)
> 3) try to login into ICQ and AIM account

Ok, once the redirects are in place I'll e-mail you and you can test.
I don't have any icq or aim accounts myself.

>
>> >> In kopete source code I see reference to another file:
>> >> http://kopete.kde.org/files/kopetemessage.xsd
>> >>
>> >> But I do not have idea how that file is used.
>> >
>> > Likely used to validate the format of the XML data which
>> > Kopete uses at some point. Perhaps this is how it stores
>> > conversations on disk?
>> >
>
> "This is the XSD schema of a Kopete message in XML form. This is
> both the format that the XSL stylesheets will expect, as well as
> the format that results from saving the chatwindow contents."
>
> "This is *not* the same as the format of the history plugin."
>
>> >> Next, I did nothing with docbook. Basically I do not have
>> >> time for updating all those user guide books, etc and also
>> >> I'm not very interesting in writing such text.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Ben
>> >
>> >> On Wednesday 15 October 2014 00:09:13 Jeremy Whiting wrote:
>> >>> Pali,
>> >>>
>> >>> Have you ever done anything with the kopete docbook ? If
>> >>> so would you mind adding the faqs from
>> >>> https://kopete.kde.org/faq.php to it? I've added links to
>> >>> the userbase page pointing to the docbook copy of the
>> >>> pipes and chat style guides on
>> >>> https://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdenetwork/kopete/chat
>> >>> wind owstyleguide.html so those should be taken care of. I
>> >>> also added a link to KDETalk below those on userbase.
>> >>> I'll ask about where to put the sound files for the
>> >>> pronunciation of kopete in english and spanish from the
>> >>> kopete.kde.org site.
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks,
>> >>> Jeremy
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Jeremy Whiting
>> >>
>> >> <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
>> >>> > Exactly.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Pali Rohár
>> >>
>> >> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> Sounds good. Also editing userbase wiki page should be
>> >>> >> simpler then editing something in svn...
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Tuesday 14 October 2014 23:31:56 Jeremy Whiting
> wrote:
>> >>> >>> Pali,
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Thanks for the information on what's useful in the
>> >>> >>> existing site. I can do like we did for
>> >>> >>> dolphin.kde.org. I'll first move the important
>> >>> >>> content from those three pages you pointed out into
>> >>> >>> userbase, then ask kopete.kde.org to be a rewrite to
>> >>> >>> userbase kopete page. then remove this old content
>> >>> >>> from svn completely. Does that sound like a good
>> >>> >>> idea? I especially like the idea of userbase because
>> >>> >>> the content can be easily translated by end-user's
>> >>> >>> into their own language.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> BR,
>> >>> >>> Jeremy
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Pali Rohár
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>> > On Tuesday 14 October 2014 23:07:04 you wrote:
>> >>> >>> >> Pali,
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> Long time no see. How's it going? I see you've been
>> >>> >>> >> fixing bugs and such in kopete lately and thought
>> >>> >>> >> I'd shoot you an e-mail. I've been cleaning up svn
>> >>> >>> >> websites folder migrating sites to git repos and
>> >>> >>> >> such and kopete is one of the remaining few sites
>> >>> >>> >> there. http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/ and
>> >>> >>> >> it's also terribly out of date. I wondered which
>> >>> >>> >> of these options you'd prefer:
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> 1. Close kopete.kde.org completely (user's can
>> >>> >>> >> still find information about it from the userbase
>> >>> >>> >> and www.kde.org application pages) 2. Keep
>> >>> >>> >> kopete.kde.org and redirect it to the kopete
>> >>> >>> >> userbase page or www.kde.org kopete application
>> >>> >>> >> page.
>> >>> >>> >> 3. Migrate kopete web content to git and update it
>> >>> >>> >> to reflect kopete current status etc.
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> I can help with any of these but wanted to ask
>> >>> >>> >> which you prefer. I wont be updating the site
>> >>> >>> >> content itself in anyway, you can do that or find
>> >>> >>> >> someone else to do it, but I can do the migration.
>> >>> >>> >> Let me know what you think.
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >> BR,
>> >>> >>> >> Jeremy
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > Hello,
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > I have never touched kopete website because I did
>> >>> >>> > not know how and also I did not have time for it.
>> >>> >>> > Even I did not know what website is in svn...
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > In last years I fixed lot of bugs in kopete and
>> >>> >>> > implemented some new options. You can see in kopete
>> >>> >>> > git that I regularly pushing changes. But I really
>> >>> >>> > do not have time for maintaining web site or
>> >>> >>> > something similar.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > So I think the best would be to keep kopete.kde.org
>> >>> >>> > DNS record and redirect webpage to userbase.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > I think there are 3 important things on
>> >>> >>> > kopete.kde.org webpage:
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > 1) Pipes Plugin guide:
>> >>> >>> > https://kopete.kde.org/pipesimplementationguide/inde
>> >>> >>> > x.ht ml
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > 2) Chat window style guide:
>> >>> >>> > https://kopete.kde.org/chatwindowstyleguide/index.ht
>> >>> >>> > ml
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > 3) Info about existence of KDE XMPP server:
>> >>> >>> > https://kdetalk.net/
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > I do not know if these two guides are somewhere else
>> >>> >>> > so this could be backup (or link from userbase?).
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > --
>> >>> >>> > Pali Rohár
>> >>> >>> > pali.rohar at gmail.com
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> Pali Rohár
>> >>> >> pali.rohar at gmail.com
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Pali Rohár
>> >> pali.rohar at gmail.com
>> >>
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> --
> Pali Rohár
> pali.rohar at gmail.com

BR,
Jeremy