kopete website

Sat Nov 8 05:40:19 UTC 2014

Pali,

Any thoughts? Been busy I guess. I can understand, just wondering if
it's time to take the next step here.

thanks,
Jeremy

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Jeremy Whiting <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
> Pali,
>
> The emoticons change and the faqs are in kopete master branch. Was
> there anything else from the website that we needed to add to kopete
> docs or kopete's git repo before making kopete.kde.org redirect to the
> userbase page ?
>
> BR,
> Jeremy
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Jeremy Whiting <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
>> Pali,
>>
>> The kopetemessage.xsd and oscarversions.xml are on autoconfig.kde.org
>> now. Both under a kopete subfolder. In the future if those need to
>> change you can change them by cloning kde:websites/autoconfig-kde-org
>> and updating them in that git repo. I've asked ben to make apache
>> rewrites from the old urls to the new ones, and redirects for the
>> sound files are already in place which redirect to userbase copies of
>> those .ogg files.
>>
>> Step 3 is awaiting review I guess. Then we can do the other two steps.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Jeremy Whiting <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
>>> Pali,
>>>
>>> Here's my plan,
>>>
>>> 1. I'll coordinate with ben about placing the sound files, and these
>>> two kopetemessage.xsd and oscarversions.xml on either files.kde.org or
>>> download.kde.org.
>>> 2. Then I'll ask sysadmin to make apache rewrites from the old urls to
>>> the new ones.
>>> 3. Then I'll add the faqs from the website to the .docbook faq section
>>> in kopete's sources.
>>> 4. Then ask sysadmin to make kopete.kde.org an apache rewrite to the
>>> userbase page.
>>> 5. Then finally remove kopete content from svn.
>>>
>>> Sound like a good plan? Did I miss any steps?
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Ben Cooksley <bcooksley at kde.org> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Pali Rohár <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Hi Pali,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> first one important thing:
>>>>>
>>>>> kopete icq/aim protocol is downloading this file at kopete
>>>>> startup: http://kopete.kde.org/oscarversions.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> That file contains version information needed for icq client to
>>>>> successfully authenticate with icq server. All these data are
>>>>> also in icq source code. But in past those data was changed and
>>>>> downloading data from kopete.kde.org cause that older kopete
>>>>> versions was able to connect again. Data from website override
>>>>> hardcoded data in kopete source code.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I updated data from website to icq source code only for v4.14
>>>>> release. So if you cut down that url all kopete versions before
>>>>> v4.14 stop working.
>>>>>
>>>>> So after updating kopete.kde.org website, please make sure that
>>>>> above url will still work and please write me how to change that
>>>>> file in future (so when something will be broken I can update
>>>>> it).
>>>>>
>>>>> File is downloaded with KIO::get(url) so if you are going to do
>>>>> some magic (redirect/etc) please make sure that it will not be
>>>>> broken.
>>>>
>>>> KIO is intelligent enough to handle redirects - we enabled mandatory
>>>> SSL for kopete.kde.org a while back, and based on your commentary here
>>>> the file is still being retrieved without problems.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In kopete source code I see reference to another file:
>>>>> http://kopete.kde.org/files/kopetemessage.xsd
>>>>>
>>>>> But I do not have idea how that file is used.
>>>>
>>>> Likely used to validate the format of the XML data which Kopete uses
>>>> at some point. Perhaps this is how it stores conversations on disk?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Next, I did nothing with docbook. Basically I do not have time
>>>>> for updating all those user guide books, etc and also I'm not
>>>>> very interesting in writing such text.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday 15 October 2014 00:09:13 Jeremy Whiting wrote:
>>>>>> Pali,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you ever done anything with the kopete docbook ? If so
>>>>>> would you mind adding the faqs from
>>>>>> https://kopete.kde.org/faq.php to it? I've added links to the
>>>>>> userbase page pointing to the docbook copy of the pipes and
>>>>>> chat style guides on
>>>>>> https://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdenetwork/kopete/chatwind
>>>>>> owstyleguide.html so those should be taken care of. I also
>>>>>> added a link to KDETalk below those on userbase. I'll ask
>>>>>> about where to put the sound files for the pronunciation of
>>>>>> kopete in english and spanish from the kopete.kde.org site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Jeremy Whiting
>>>>> <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
>>>>>> > Exactly.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Pali Rohár
>>>>> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> Sounds good. Also editing userbase wiki page should be
>>>>>> >> simpler then editing something in svn...
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Tuesday 14 October 2014 23:31:56 Jeremy Whiting wrote:
>>>>>> >>> Pali,
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Thanks for the information on what's useful in the
>>>>>> >>> existing site. I can do like we did for dolphin.kde.org.
>>>>>> >>> I'll first move the important content from those three
>>>>>> >>> pages you pointed out into userbase, then ask
>>>>>> >>> kopete.kde.org to be a rewrite to userbase kopete page.
>>>>>> >>> then remove this old content from svn completely. Does
>>>>>> >>> that sound like a good idea? I especially like the idea
>>>>>> >>> of userbase because the content can be easily translated
>>>>>> >>> by end-user's into their own language.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> BR,
>>>>>> >>> Jeremy
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Pali Rohár
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> <pali.rohar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> > On Tuesday 14 October 2014 23:07:04 you wrote:
>>>>>> >>> >> Pali,
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> Long time no see. How's it going? I see you've been
>>>>>> >>> >> fixing bugs and such in kopete lately and thought I'd
>>>>>> >>> >> shoot you an e-mail. I've been cleaning up svn
>>>>>> >>> >> websites folder migrating sites to git repos and such
>>>>>> >>> >> and kopete is one of the remaining few sites there.
>>>>>> >>> >> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/ and it's also
>>>>>> >>> >> terribly out of date. I wondered which of these options
>>>>>> >>> >> you'd prefer:
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> 1. Close kopete.kde.org completely (user's can still
>>>>>> >>> >> find information about it from the userbase and
>>>>>> >>> >> www.kde.org application pages) 2. Keep kopete.kde.org
>>>>>> >>> >> and redirect it to the kopete userbase page or
>>>>>> >>> >> www.kde.org kopete application page.
>>>>>> >>> >> 3. Migrate kopete web content to git and update it to
>>>>>> >>> >> reflect kopete current status etc.
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> I can help with any of these but wanted to ask which
>>>>>> >>> >> you prefer. I wont be updating the site content itself
>>>>>> >>> >> in anyway, you can do that or find someone else to do
>>>>>> >>> >> it, but I can do the migration. Let me know what you
>>>>>> >>> >> think.
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> BR,
>>>>>> >>> >> Jeremy
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > Hello,
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > I have never touched kopete website because I did not
>>>>>> >>> > know how and also I did not have time for it. Even I
>>>>>> >>> > did not know what website is in svn...
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > In last years I fixed lot of bugs in kopete and
>>>>>> >>> > implemented some new options. You can see in kopete git
>>>>>> >>> > that I regularly pushing changes. But I really do not
>>>>>> >>> > have time for maintaining web site or something
>>>>>> >>> > similar.
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > So I think the best would be to keep kopete.kde.org DNS
>>>>>> >>> > record and redirect webpage to userbase.
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > I think there are 3 important things on kopete.kde.org
>>>>>> >>> > webpage:
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > 1) Pipes Plugin guide:
>>>>>> >>> > https://kopete.kde.org/pipesimplementationguide/index.ht
>>>>>> >>> > ml
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > 2) Chat window style guide:
>>>>>> >>> > https://kopete.kde.org/chatwindowstyleguide/index.html
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > 3) Info about existence of KDE XMPP server:
>>>>>> >>> > https://kdetalk.net/
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > I do not know if these two guides are somewhere else so
>>>>>> >>> > this could be backup (or link from userbase?).
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > --
>>>>>> >>> > Pali Rohár
>>>>>> >>> > pali.rohar at gmail.com
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>> >> Pali Rohár
>>>>>> >> pali.rohar at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Pali Rohár
>>>>> pali.rohar at gmail.com
>>>>>
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