[www.kde.org] [Bug 317553] www.kde.org webpages should not set font-size of unstyled body text and should comply with 100% Easy-2-Read Std

Gérard Talbot browserbugs at gtalbot.org
Sat Mar 30 18:04:19 UTC 2013


https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317553

--- Comment #7 from Gérard Talbot <browserbugs at gtalbot.org> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> Created attachment 78498 [details]
> contextual 144 DPI screenshot of last URL in comment 0
> 
> (In reply to comment #2)
> > First, it is a lie that your first link doesn't provide a font-size to its
> > body or paragraphs. It does set some rem based font size.
> 
> Archived/earlier version of first comment 0 link:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20120529002551/http://informationarchitects.net/
> blog/100e2r/
> Editor's version of first comment 0 link:
> http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/new100e2r.html
> 
> Default line height is as provided by the actual glyph used's designer,

There may be small discrepancies though in the way browsers handle this. 
Alan Gresley (in a thread in www-style mailing list) created some revealing 
tests on this.

> which is generally optimal as long as type size is optimal and line length
> is not excessive. Regardless, line height is a separate issue from text size
> and thus should not be a component of or discussed in this bug.


Correct: line height is a separate issue from text size. 
Although I wish it would be 1.4 or even 1.5.  
100% Easy-2-Read Standard states:
"3. Reader friendly line height
(...)
The default HTML line height is too small. If you increase the line height, the
text becomes more readable. 140% leading is a good benchmark.
"

Also,

WCAG 2.0, 1.4.8 Visual Presentation: For the visual presentation of blocks of
text, a mechanism is available to achieve the following: (Level AAA)  state:
"
Line spacing (leading) is at least space-and-a-half within paragraphs, and
paragraph spacing is at least 1.5 times larger than the line spacing.
"
So, to be AAA compliant, paragraph line-height should be set to 1.5
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG/#visual-audio-contrast-visual-presentation

> 
> Setting any base font size other than 100%, 1em or medium is rude[1].
> There's no way any web stylist can know something other than the user's
> browser default size can possibly work better, no matter how much trouble it
> may be for a site's stylist(s) or CMS to not change the base text size to
> something else.
> 
> The KDE Forum and KDE Bugzilla are particularly awful, via further usability
> reduction in the form of tiny fonts that are low contrast gray on white
> instead of black on white, and smaller still text within its tiny user input
> textareas.

I completely agree with you, Felix.

> 
> [1] http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/rudeweb.html

Upcoming attachement is 
KDE-bug317442-100percent-easy-to-read.png , 28 Kibytes, 1024px wide by 408px
tall
which is what I see if I set minimal font-size to 15px in Firefox 19.0.2 and
when I try to read your own comment, Ingo, on my 1024px by 768px scr. res.

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