[www.kde.org] [Bug 317553] www.kde.org webpages should not set font-size of unstyled body text and should comply with 100% Easy-2-Read Std

Ingo Malchow imalchow at kde.org
Sat Mar 30 08:44:20 UTC 2013


--- Comment #5 from Ingo Malchow <imalchow at kde.org> ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> (In reply to comment #2)
> > users favourites are something between 6px and 20px... 
> No one's favorite font is 6px, or 7px, or even 8px. The most commonly used
> fonts require at least 8px to fully form a glyph. Most font families require
> a minimum size of 9px to fully form all available glyphs. On several of my
> installations the _minimum_ allowed font size in web pages is 20px.

Wow, then you must have a seriously different user group. Instead, i got a lot
of complaints in the early phase about too big fonts. And they were not even
close to 20px, rather around 14px (but em based).

> (In reply to comment #2)
> > But it tends to break when you try to do complex layouts in a lot of
> > different CMS. And that is the situation with KDE, we have a lot of them,
> > and a lot of functionality that needs to be put somewhere, e.g. sidebars,
> > horizontal bars, buttons, boxes etc. Now imagine how hard it will get when
> > you just try to strike out any font declaration. Bad idea
> The worse idea is rude design. 
> This excuse is typical of a lazy person with no interest inaccessibility.

False assumption. And not the most ideal way to get something fixed.

> > pleasing. This of course removes the choice from the user, but for good
> > hopefully.
> You're hoping for the impossible. No good can be expected from web page text
> a fraction of the user's preference, or half the size or less of the DE's UI
> text. It's the user that matters most. Without users there's no reason for a
> pages existence. Without legible text, there's little reason for the
> visitor's first action on seeing it to be other than clicking the back
> button or the tab's close button.
> > So, all in all, valid points you raise, the maintenance horror overweighs
> > though. This is no screenreader blogpage, this is a set of around a dozen
> > different CMS that need to be themed and work properly. 
> They don't work properly now. They produce a rude product hard on users. An
> appropriate set of CMS themes and a firm policy of respecting users will not
> cause maintenance horror.

Hmmmyeah... I better leave that uncommented...
Feel free to report other usability issues as they arise. However, there is a
lot of progress on an updated version, and the font might change with it as
well. But i won't let it up to the user that much, else you end up with
sidebars that 

20px... that is not workable here. As you can see, this specific bug is already
marked as wontfix.

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