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[Ingo Malchow]

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Am 19.06.2012 14:47, schrieb Carl Symons:
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Myriam Schweingruber
> <myriam at kde.org> wrote:
>> Hi Carl,
>> 
>> Answering in private mail with the KDE web team in Cc.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Carl Symons
>> <carlsymons at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Kevin Kyzer <kevin at k3v.in>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> My name is Kevin Kyzer. I'm an SEO and online marketing
>>>> professional from Gilbert, Arizona, USA. I've been using KDE
>>>> for over 5 years now, and would love to give back to the
>>>> community in my own special way. I specialize in organic link
>>>> building, and improving a wide variety of on page and
>>>> off-site search engine ranking factors. Any suggestions on
>>>> what I could do for you to help?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>> Kevin Kyzer
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello Kevin,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for contacting KDE Promo.
>>> 
>>> The main meeting of the KDE Community is coming up in about 2
>>> weeks in Tallinn, Estonia. There will be discussions about
>>> marketing and promotion that will probably influence the use of
>>> online marketing such as you do.
>>> 
>>> As you can see at kde.org, there are quite a number of KDE
>>> websites. And there is no central authority coordinating them.
>> 
>> Which is just plain wrong, we have a KDE www team and the
>> sysadmins who administer our servers. It would be best to
>> actually forward him to the web team if he wants to participate,
>> but from my POV, I don't that his SEO skills are of much use. I
>> would be gladyl proven wrong :)
> 
> I understand and appreciate your point of view. In large part I
> agree.
> 
> Here's where I was coming from with this guy...he's a marketeer 
> (presumably). What I wrote was intended for someone who,
> generously speaking, wants to help KDE marketing. There is no
> central authority coordinating _KDE Marketing strategy on the web_.
> If the www team is doing this, I would love to hear about what the
> strategy is and how it came to be. One of the main KDE public
> channels is the Dot. I am not aware of any overt www team
> involvement in Dot marketing or positioning.

Good point, indeed the boundaries are a bit washed out here, the
webteam as such (yes, Carl, i prefer to call it like that :P)
basically cares for any website, be it from a technical point or from
the content. A good example is Anne caring for userbase and its
articles. If that also involves marketing, yeah, why not. IMO any KDE
website is about marketing.
What is missing here probably is a better communication. We are
already getting better here when it comes to the connection to the
sysadmins.
Actually, the webteam is indeed exactly in the middle and sort of in
both, the promo folks and the sysadmin folks.

> 
> I completely agree with your SEO statement. Said another way, SEO
> = tricking Google. In my view, it is basically a scam, and at odds
> with what KDE is about.
> 

If there is something we can improve internally (without external link
exchange) i am all for it.

> So taken together, I wasn't willing to get sucked into finding ways
> he could "help" us.
> 
> Actually, I am not aware of the www team as a team. I know Ingo
> and Ben and enjoy working with them on web stuff. I'm sure there
> are other people I know who are on that team, but I don't know them
> as www team members, but rather as individuals.

There are indeed more than that, probably not many. But... now you
know! Note it! ;)

> 
> Carl
> 
> 
>> 
>> Also JFYI: at the FSFE we recently got some elaborate SPAM
>> offering help for exactly that, also from people saying they
>> would be supporters of Free Software. In effect they were just
>> trying to place links.
>> 
>> Regards, Myriam
>> 
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Ingo Malchow
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