Why deleting stuff without putting replacements? e.g. trunk/www/sites/www/people/

[Ben Cooksley]

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Mark Ziegler
<mark.ziegler at rakekniven.de> wrote:
> Hello Ben,
>
> first of all: Sorry for my harsh words.
> When I am reading my email today it looks like Sunday wasn't my best day :-(
>
> Am 07.03.2010 um 19:57 schrieb Ben Cooksley:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
>>> A Diumenge, 7 de març de 2010, Mark Ziegler va escriure:
>>>> Just found that commit
>>>> http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1087458 killed many files.
>>>>
>>>> Why the hell do some www newbies just ignore open issues?
>>>>
>>>> See https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=210302
>>>>
>>>> "Please do not delete it without announcing it.
>>>> Many people, specially from asia and middle east, are proud to be listed
>>>> here. It is a nice list and impressive list and quickly shows how many
>>>> people are contributing to KDE."
>>>>
>>>> I am really sad (and pissed off)!
>>>
>>> Calm down dude, calling people newbie is not going to improve anything.
>>>
>>> I agree that it is good that some people wants the badge of being a
>>> contributor and i also agree it's impossible to maintain.
>>>
>>> So if we want to have that kind of page i think the only real viable way is
>>> extracting the info from svn commits/accounts.
>>
>> This was exactly why I killed it. When building the new site, the idea
>> was to ensure it would contain content that wouldn't date. A list such
>> as this dates far too quickly. Building it automatically from the svn
>> accounts file is the only way forward if this needs to come back.
>
> Building a new shiny kde.org is wonderful and I take my hat off to the people who did the work.
> But the kde www empire is more than just kde.org.

Thanks.

>
> When the new dot was created the kde.de (german one (me) man show)  page was left back with more than a thousand of dead links.
> Nobody takes care of that some weeks later.
> I have more examples like that.

Quite a bit of the content was largely either moved to a new place, or
now is superseded by something newer and more wide covering.

If you have instances of those, you may wish to look at /media/404.php
where some of the redirects have already been added.

>
> When we shifted much content from developer.kde.org to techbase we left some content back with a remark of "old, unmaintained" content.
>
> The credit page could be placed on one of our wikis as well.

This would probably be a good idea, at least in the short term until
the automated solution is built, and it will also allow people to add
themselves if needed.

>
> So again, sorry for the choice of my words.
No problem.

>
> Cheers,
> Mark

Regards,
Ben