BTW, the main rationale is that the #define breaks compilation e.g. in kdepim/kresources/groupwise/soap/stdsoap2.cpp. -- regards / pozdrawiam, Jaroslaw Staniek Sponsored by OpenOffice Polska (http://www.openoffice.com.pl/en) to work on Kexi & KOffice (http://www.kexi.pl/en, http://www.koffice.org/kexi) KDE Libraries for MS Windows (http://windows.kde.org)