kde installer in kdewin32 svn

[mark cox]

it seems that document talks mostly about downloading and dependency
management. installing things in the correct places. Presenting a consistent
UI , setting the correct registry settings, dealing with user install
directories are all messy things. Either you can use the pascal script or
use a C++ dll, and call it from inno setup. either way you are saving
yourself a lot of code.

mark


On 1/9/07, Ralf Habacker <ralf.habacker at freenet.de> wrote:
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> Peter Kümmel schrieb:
> > mark cox wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not sure why you are re-inventing the wheel. inno setup is mature
> >> installation software with many features and you can extend it to add
> those
> >> missing features. In my experience, installers on windows always turn
> >> out to
> >> be much more complicated than anticipated and because inno setup is
> mature
> >> it has already encountered and solved those problems.
> >> website: www.innosetup.com
> >>
> >> mark
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/8/07, Ralf Habacker <ralf.habacker at freenet.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> there is an updated spec of the installer available on
> >>>
> >>>
> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/kdewin32/installer/doc/readme.txt?rev=620682&view=auto
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> >>> .
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> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions too or sombody want's to help coding  beside Christian
> >>> Ehrlicher, who had contributed already some patches ?
> >>>
> >>> Ralf
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> > I use inno setup here:
> >
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=29557&package_id=57553&release_id=425927
> > (the .exe). It has a pascal like syntax, and when
> > you wanna distribute all files within a directory and wanna call
> > some .bat files it is very convenient.
> > It has a build-in 7zip compression.
> >
> >
> > Wouldn't it be the simplest to just ship all files in one package.
> > When someone doesn't want some specific libraries he should
> > do it like a expert and use svn checkouts.
> >
> >
> Do you have read
> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/kdewin32/installer/doc/readme.txt
> or verified kdelibs/share/apps/cmake/modules how much dependencies there
> are. The latter shows currently 47 find... entries, not included the
> additional tools  Do you like to build all such packages by hand to be
> able to compile KDE applications. Additional only downloading all these
> files by hand require much time.
>
> The kde-installer supports you in the manner: 'okay, let's see which
> packages are required and where can I download it with one click'
>
> Your refered setup.exe size is 134 KB, a zipped kdelibs with debug
> informations is about 138 MB, unpackaged 616 MB. Do you like to
> recompile your installer exe every time a little patch is required ?
> Sure, you can create additional installers which contains updates, but
> this ends up like the windows update service, where you have many
> installed patches in your software panel.
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> Then the next full update is out and you have to deinstall all patches
> by hand, which will create many confusions. I have used inno setup for
> KDE on cygwin and switched later to the cygwin installer in the long run
> because of problems with such updates.
>
> In the opposite using an online installer like the kde-installer is,
> you can create a new patch directory on the kde mirrors, upload some
> zipped files, add little dependency informations to the installer main
> config files located on this mirror and users are able to use this
> patches immediatly. This belongs also to snapshots.
>
> Inno Setup uses pascal and it might be not easy for non pascal users to
> learn all the required stuff. It is not very easy if you like to make
> more complicated things. Isn't it be more natural to use qt for a kde
> installer.
>
> In the long run there will be required to have standalone package like
> Jaroslav had done for kexi, but who will maintain this in this state of
> the project. Are we all not happy to use available resources as much as
> possible ?
>
> In my opinion the strategy is 'let's look where a binary packages for a
> required library or tool is and use it as available resource before
> recompiling it by myself.
>
> There may be packages, which are unusable for kde like the missing
> symbol problem with libxml2 on the gnuwin32 site for which Christian had
> compiled a replacement in his win32libs distribution.
>
> How do you be able to handle this with inno setup ?  The kde-installer
> could assist you in this area too by adding a rule in the main server
> based config file to exclude the libxml library from gnuwin32 site.
> Instead it would use the related packages from the win32libs website.
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