KDE Windows and releases

Vadim Peretokin vperetokin at gmail.com
Wed Dec 19 05:03:59 CET 2007


Well I'm really hoping for the packaging format, because I'm looking to port
a MUD client to windows (where it'll be a pretty good competition to the
existing similar windows programs).

On Dec 18, 2007 6:24 PM, Shane King <kde at dontletsstart.com> wrote:

> Just had a few thoughts about how KDE is going to work on Windows as a
> finished product somewhere along the line. For background, my blog post
> about Amarok Windows releases:
>
> <
> http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/550-Windows-binaries-and-packaging.html
> >
>
> As I see it, sometime in the not too distant future, Amarok 2 is going
> to go alpha on Linux, and we'd like to go alpha on Windows too. The
> difficulty is that you can really only have one KDE 4 installation per
> user (or at least only be running from one installation at a time), so
> to play nice with others, Amarok can't really package its own KDE
> libraries, there needs to be an "official" distribution.
>
>
> For this to happen, I think we'd need to do the following:
>
> * We need to pick a compiler. Keeping things compiling under multiple
> compilers is a good thing so we can change with circumstances, but for
> releases to work we need an official compiler.
>
> Lets be honest: MSVC compiles faster, produces smaller binaries, (IMO
> seems to) produces faster code, has a better debugging environment, is
> the standard for windows development, just works with the PSDK without
> having to write your own headers and hasn't had the lead developer quit.
> On the other hand, the politics of choosing it over mingw are difficult.
> Not sure how you decide that one, glad it's not my call. ;)
>
> * We'd need to have sort of nominal release schedule so that we can
> point people to it and say "yes, bug X is fixed and in the next release,
> we hope to have it out in 2 weeks". Of course we have very limited
> resources so we can't commit to anything concrete, but having a vague
> idea of when the next release is coming and what will be in it would be
> nice.
>
> * Maybe not straight away, but we probably also need a real packaging
> format (with thing like pre-inst/post-inst scripts etc) so third parties
> can make packages against the base system. Ideally I should be able to
> do something like make my own Amarok package and send it out to test a
> bug fix and others can just install it so long as they have the
> dependencies installed via the installer.
>
> Is porting something like dpkg or rpm even remotely possible/sensible?
> Or is it easier to just to a simpler custom implementation?
>
>
>
> Now perhaps it's too soon to start thinking about this, but just like
> KDE on Unix going to release in part because they hope it will attract
> interest, perhaps there's merit in doing the same thing on Windows?
>
> Thoughts? Has this been discussed before in the past and I've missed it?
> I did a quick google search but it didn't turn up anything quite along
> these lines.
>
> As I said on my blog post, yay for Linux and someone else having to deal
> with turning source into binaries. :p
>
> Shane.
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